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    @Rhipsaspis: Well, for my own Sauromatae campaign I also use a similar tactic (even don't know how often I had to reconquer some of my settelments). For the Sweboz I use another tactic (fighting in woods/snow and run over the enemy flanks). But this isn't the point I wanted to say. I wanted to point out, that the Sweboz unit's aren't overpowered. Their unit's are neither strong nor cost effectiv in comperision to other factions units (exept the levies), I also didn't wanted to claim that a player can't win with them. Just to make this sure, I'm not a supporter for a sweboz "super" unit. In generall I'm pleased with the stats of the Sweboz units (except the Bodyguards). But well, what do think about their (Sweboz Bodyguards) strength? The results of duells against Arjos, Solduros or Neitos, are clear against the Sweboz Bodyguards. I think a bit too clear.
    I don't want them to be an "Überkrieger", I just think they did a bit better in history. And I would be happy about Wolf- and Bearwarriors .
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    By rocks attached to pine shafts I didn't mean spears.

    See the Sweboz, (Tree-people), would often wrap three large rocks to the centre of a small shaft, and when it came time for the charge of battle, they would hold the shaft at both ends, and push the enemy with the central rocks.
    Sometimes they used four, and the upper class Germans who could afford estates usually had opals instead of rocks.
    These upper class were referred to as Marcomanni in Latin, (Upper-classi).

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    What?
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    Right, this is getting good now.
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    Quote something from a book, they will berate you.

    Quote from the first thoughts that enter your head, and you can write the facts unassailed!

    Oh, if anyone wants me to relate any more facts on the Sweboz, don't hesitate to ask, it's an interesting book I'm reading on them.
    I will cite the name and author when I find it.. it's written by someone who went to a university!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn
    By rocks attached to pine shafts I didn't mean spears.

    See the Sweboz, (Tree-people), would often wrap three large rocks to the centre of a small shaft, and when it came time for the charge of battle, they would hold the shaft at both ends, and push the enemy with the central rocks.
    Sometimes they used four, and the upper class Germans who could afford estates usually had opals instead of rocks.
    These upper class were referred to as Marcomanni in Latin, (Upper-classi).
    What?
    At least you should know that the Marcomanni were part of the suebi confederation - for better understanding a suebi tribe.
    Interesting that those things you've read in the book are called facts by you, but if it was written by someone who went to university it must be the only truth
    And please, don't talk about facts from a mysterious book those are unknown to any other respected historian.

    Also it would be interesting how you came to the conclusion the proto-germanic Sweboz means Tree-People?

    You really want us to believe the Sweboz who fought Caesar, raided and conquered a part of Gaul were people who fought in a early bronze-age way?

    This is just funny and perhaps blitzkrieg or others want to discuss this things with you.
    Sadly i have no time for this - reminds me too much of Psycho's arguments.

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    ... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    Oh, oh finally, hooray, a serious discussion with somebody!

    Safe, everybody knows Swe is Tree, and Boz, is the plural of person in proto-germanic. This is the Europa Barbarorum forum by the way, we know things.
    Swe even RHYMES with Tree - how obvious is that!

    It isn't the Marcomanni, (Upper-Classi), it is the Myrkophani tribe you are speaking of.
    But I forgive your mistake, because I am a fan of the Myrkophani myself, many of their best leaders were scholars under Epitome the Greek Philosopher, including Baergu, Jue, and Travenos the black Weredog.

    Anyway, back to actual combat techniques.

    The Tree People found that they were out-classed by the Reeboz, (Sea-People), who had boats and also bows.

    The Sweboz, (Tree-People), responded by making a ranged version of their rock-stick, (Rokstek), by attaching two rocks to each end of a shaft, and then adding one rock to either end to make that end heavier.

    When thrown, this weapon would swing around a bit, and if the enemy got hit with the heavier end, it would hurt more than if they got hit with the lighter end.
    The Tree People knew this, as they were smart men, disciples of Epitome.

    By smart men, I do not mean to confuse them with the smart-people, (Rartboz), but I will await more interest before detailing them.

    By the way, for reference, here is my super-duper know-it-all book written by someone who went to university.

    The German People, (Die Jerboz) - written by Schaansen Blaarns

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    For anyone who didn't understand it, Glenn has been joking all along. It was a light-hearted but apparently unwelcome parody of some other posts here, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn
    ... The German People, (Die Jerboz) - written by Schaansen Blaarns
    Was that 'die Gerbils' or 'Gerbillinae/Rennmäuse' and the 'Marcomanni/Meriones unguiculatus?'
    Last edited by cmacq; 02-08-2008 at 04:51.
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    No, that was me stirring up trouble amongst over-zealous aspiring historians whilst awaiting my fate in Capo de Tutti Capi II. Read it! Amazing!

    Anyway, "Die Jerboz", was continuing in the parodic pattern I made, boz meaning people, Jer, as in German, and Die, as in trying to state subtly that, 'die' existed in Proto-Germanic as, "The".

    I can't claim to actually know anything on the history of Germanic folks that isn't written in the apparently over-biased accounts of Caius Caesar and Cornelius Tacitus, but I will eventually approach them.

    For now it is Roman Consular History, Ab Urbe Condita, and Classical Latin - As well as a base study of the Rhetoric, Dialectic and Topics.

    I don't discuss it on here because you usually come into contact with the likes of SaFe, who will treat you like scum no matter what you write.
    Well done, SaFe.

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    I thought Santa Fe was a nice little town when I visited last?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn
    ... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    Oh, oh finally, hooray, a serious discussion with somebody!

    Safe, everybody knows Swe is Tree, and Boz, is the plural of person in proto-germanic. This is the Europa Barbarorum forum by the way, we know things.
    Swe even RHYMES with Tree - how obvious is that!

    It isn't the Marcomanni, (Upper-Classi), it is the Myrkophani tribe you are speaking of.
    But I forgive your mistake, because I am a fan of the Myrkophani myself, many of their best leaders were scholars under Epitome the Greek Philosopher, including Baergu, Jue, and Travenos the black Weredog.

    Anyway, back to actual combat techniques.

    The Tree People found that they were out-classed by the Reeboz, (Sea-People), who had boats and also bows.

    The Sweboz, (Tree-People), responded by making a ranged version of their rock-stick, (Rokstek), by attaching two rocks to each end of a shaft, and then adding one rock to either end to make that end heavier.

    When thrown, this weapon would swing around a bit, and if the enemy got hit with the heavier end, it would hurt more than if they got hit with the lighter end.
    The Tree People knew this, as they were smart men, disciples of Epitome.

    By smart men, I do not mean to confuse them with the smart-people, (Rartboz), but I will await more interest before detailing them.

    By the way, for reference, here is my super-duper know-it-all book written by someone who went to university.

    The German People, (Die Jerboz) - written by Schaansen Blaarns

    Thank you for your kind words Glenn, b.t.w. boz doesn't mean plural in protogermanic, i think you mean rather the ending -oz.
    I fear your kind of sarcasm is lost on me.
    Also i'm not sure if i treat anyone as scum, i just don't like to read about "facts" without proof, had that experience too often with other stuff.
    Last edited by SaFe; 02-08-2008 at 15:50.

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    It's OK, SaFe, I suppose lazy children who do not want to open those ancient things called pages, they will always hijack threads, spam and rant about their ego and display their lack of wit (you want a challenge in insanity, Bub? You give me a try).

    Glenn is burro, grade D scum, among bottomfeeders at home in their mediocrity... used cars or journalism anyone?

    My challenge has yet to start by the way... my words above are empirical analysis
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    Gee, I'd really like to Mr. FastWar, but I'm feeling far too lazy and undecided, I'm think I'm going to go have a sit down.

    By the way, I'm better than you.

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