That Seleucid campaign sounds fun fun fun
That Seleucid campaign sounds fun fun fun
A Seleucid/Roman match up is always fun, once you've given the Latins a good chance to expand and build up a military.
My war was 3 full-stack Seleucid armies fighting a holding action in northern Macedonia, slowly grinding through endless Brutii stacks to reach Thessalonica. That war was settled swiftly, however, once I landed 3 more full stacks all over the Peloponnese and devastated their logistical base. It's basically a gigantic war of attrition and manuever, especially if you try to always outnumber your enemy on the battlemap when possible, as I do. Leads to a lot of careful maneuvering with your armies to eliminate the hordes of Romans one at a time.
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I suppose it would be fun with any faction when letting the Romans build up.
I don't have screenie, seeing as I lost any after getting my new harddrive, and I haven't reinstalled RTW yet, mostly cause it's a big tax on my comp anyway. But I do wish to share one of my most favored moments in RTW.
I was playing as the Julii, and I had conquered Segesta, and Caralis, and I think the senate either wanted me to blockade a Gaulic port, or to take Carthage, or possibly Thapsus. Well I think I was in the middle of either getting some new recruits for the job, or sending a force towards the African coast. Just as I can see my target in range, a Carthaginian diplomat comes to Arrinium(its the one that starts off as your capitol.) asking for a ceasefire, and for me to hand over Caralis. Now being the wise guy I am, I countered with a ceasefire, and giving them Caralis, for the rest of their empire, which was, Corduba, Thapsus, Carthage(I think), and that small Island off the Iberian(sorry forgot its name). I also offered either 10,000 or 20,000 denari. And to my surprise, they accepted, I believe that was the oddest thing I've ever seen, but I didn't complain, and I was able to keep all those cities, and build up to the Julii empire.
I'm sorry I don't have a screenie to back this story up, but I'm not making this up, I still wonder why the Carthaginians did this.
Anyone wanna give their 2 cents as to why this happened?
"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know where to hide the bodies."
That old peach of diplomacy!!
^ It is now 260BC.
I am now playing a very interesting campaign with the Greek Cities-- at the start of the game (270BC), I began evacuating everyone from my initial starting territories to Gaul. There were some hiccups along the way: the former governer of Pergamum, Eumenes, got waylaid by a Julii navy, but by 265BC, most of the soldiers and family members have landed in Gaul. One of the armies also took Caralis along the way, because I anticipated that the trade would be crucial.
Massilia was under siege by a small Gallic force, which I defeated easily. I then laid siege to and captured Massilia within the year. My initial territories, which had been hanging on to loyalty, rebelled the turn after I set Massilia to be my capital.
I had been offering my cities to relevant factions: those in mainland Greece to Macedon, Syracuse to the Scipii and the Carthagenians, Pergamum and Rhodes to the Seleucids. Idiots that they are, all of them rejected the gifts except for the Seleucid Empire, which accepted Pergamum but not Rhodes. The turn after the Scipii rejected my gift of Syracuse, they sent an army down to attack Syracuse, though by then I had already evacuated the city. Where's the logic in that? The Romans, especially, I had been keen to keep as trade partners, but.....
As a result, I was losing money very turn after setting up a Greek republic in Massilia and Narbo Martius. It wasn't until I had less than 50 denarii left that I finally made a net profit, after taking Lugdunum. To cement my income, I took Osca, with its mines, from the Spanish.
The first ten years were challenging, to say the least-- with a rapidly dwindling treasury, lousy infrastructure (all the towns had only 1000+ population), and all four of my neighbouring factions at war with me (Spain, Gaul, Germania, Julii). I had to beat back a lot of Gallic armies using mostly lousy militia hoplites, though the single unit of Spartan hoplites helped a lot.
Now, with all my barbarian towns becoming Greek large towns, I don't anticipate any financial trouble anytime soon, but militarily, it is another matter. As of 260BC, toggle_fow tells me that the Spanish have a few medium-sized armies around Carthago Nova. The Gauls have a few good generals and big armies, though I spotted a Briton full stack cross over to Condate Redonum, which might help a little. The Germans, too, are a major problem, with it dominating central and eastern Europe as usual. Hopefully a war with Britannia will break out. But the biggest bogey of them all are the Julii. They haven't expanded past Segesta, but I spotted an almost-full-stack sitting idle in Etruria. I don't think it will decide to target me anytime soon-- I think they will go for Mediolanum first, but after that......
As previously mentioned, diplomacy isn't going very well at all. I repeatedly tried and failed to make peace with any of the factions at war with me-- the Gauls and the Spanish in particular seem to think very highly of themselves-- they have approached me a few times with demands for becoming their protectorate. I, of course, told them where to shove their demands. I did consider accepting-- it would end the wars and provide temporary respite, but in the interests of role-playing, I didn't.
The world map as a whole seems pretty interesting. The Gauls seem to have a firm footing in Illyria, and, with me acting a buffer between them and the Julii, it remains to be seen how Gaul -and the Julii- will fare. The Germans are up to their usual stuff, dominating central and eastern Europe and such.
In Macedon, it's the usual farce-- the Brutii haven't taken any Macedonian settlements yet, but it will, soon. I had hoped that abandoning my Greek settlements might yield a Macedon powerful enough to resist the Brutii, but the Macedonians seem to be a little lame in this campaign. They have repeatedly failed to take Athens, and no move at all has been made to take rebel, wall-less Sparta.
The situation in the East seems curiously static. The Egyptians are just sitting there, and so are the Armenians. Pontus has not been as successful in fighting the Seleucids, either. The Seleucids are doing fairly well-- their cities are relatively well-garrisoned, and none of them save Tarsus is under siege. Did my gifting of Pergamum to them make them stronger? It seems unlikely, but I don't think I've seen a game in which the AI Seleucids are still not reduced at all after ten years.
All in all, one of the most fascinating and unique campaigns I've started in a while.
Last edited by Quirinus; 02-12-2008 at 08:56. Reason: Typos
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Relocating to greek massilla. Sounds good. Possibly when you have consolidated yourself you can aim to take all greek settlements on the map?
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