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    Britons 'richer than Americans'

    The average UK person will this year have a greater income than their US counterpart for the first time since the 19th Century, figures suggest.
    Analyst Oxford Economics said the UK's GDP per head of population will reach £23,500 - £250 higher than in the US. However, because goods and services are cheaper in the US, Americans will have stronger purchasing power, it added.

    UK GDP per capita will also be higher than in Germany (£21,665) and France (£21,700), Oxford Economics calculated. Managing director Adrian Cooper said: "The last 15 years have seen a dramatic change in the UK's economic performance and its position in the world economy.

    "No longer are we the 'sick man of Europe'."

    Oxford Economics said that in 1993, following the last major recession and the UK's ejection from the ERM, GDP per capita in the UK was 34% lower than in the US, 33% lower than in Germany and 26% lower than in France.

    It said the improved UK position reflected the sustained strong growth it has enjoyed since then and the recent strength of sterling. Mr Cooper said: "The UK has been catching up steadily with living standards in the US since 2001, so it is a well-established trend rather than simply the result of currency fluctuations."
    I thought this rather historic news. I'm too lazy to check, but I think this is the first time since the 19th century that any big European economy has a higher GDP per capita than the US. France and Germany are not far behind either and could follow soon.
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    The only way to repair the status-quo is to immediately increase taxes on those filthy-rich petit-bourgeoises!
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    So...

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    The superiority of europeans never ceases to amaze me, that and thier willingness to let anyone know who will listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    I thought this rather historic news. I'm too lazy to check, but I think this is the first time since the 19th century that any big European economy has a higher GDP per capita than the US.
    not true
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_capita_income

    Switzerland has a big economy

    but yea - this is big news

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin
    The superiority of europeans never ceases to amaze me, that and thier willingness to let anyone know who will listen.
    For the nth time, the British are not europeans. Ever heard the phrase 'Fog in the Channel, Europe cut off'.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    For the nth time, the British are not europeans. Ever heard the phrase 'Fog in the Channel, Europe cut off'.
    Sure you are, every dam one of you. My brother in law is British and every other weekend I get to hear him rail on about the wonders of the european lifestyle, odd he chose to life here. Something about his ability to make money and pay less taxes but I digress...

    Not to mention he always mentions some crap about Kevin Peiterson having the potential to be the best batsman of all time. The cricket talk is really inspiring, I always encourage him to go home and enjoy his culture and leave us to our crumbling mess, he wont go.
    There are few things more annoying than some idiot who has never done anything trying to say definitively how something should be done.

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    I for one welcome our renewed British overlords.
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    Would you like ketchup to go with that chip on your shoulder, Odin?

    Looking out of the window, I ask; wha'? So a couple of fellows are a few quids up on their trans-Atlantic counterparts? Big deal. It makes sod all difference. As the article said, things are considerably cheaper over there, and I don't believe they pay quite as much tax as we do in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiciar
    Would you like some fish to go with that chip on your shoulder, Odin?
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    Well spotted, sir!
    When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman? From the beginning all men by nature were created alike, and our bondage or servitude came in by the unjust oppression of naughty men. For if God would have had any bondsmen from the beginning, he would have appointed who should be bound, and who free. And therefore I exhort you to consider that now the time is come, appointed to us by God, in which ye may (if ye will) cast off the yoke of bondage, and recover liberty. - John Ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justiciar
    Would you like ketchup to go with that chip on your shoulder, Odin?

    Looking out of the window, I ask; wha'? So a couple of fellows are a few quids up on their trans-Atlantic counterparts? Big deal. It makes sod all difference. As the article said, things are considerably cheaper over there, and I don't believe they pay quite as much tax as we do in the UK.


    case and point.
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    How about cranking in comparative tax burden and seeing who actually has the most chink to spread about?
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    Am I wrong? The italics, man. The italics. I don't claim to know, it's just the impression I was under.
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    It's long past time we declared war on Great Britain. This is the final provocation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin
    Not to mention he always mentions some crap about Kevin Peiterson having the potential to be the best batsman of all time. The cricket talk is really inspiring, I always encourage him to go home and enjoy his culture and leave us to our crumbling mess, he wont go.
    You see this is where you're argument falls down. No self-respecting european would talk at any lenth about cricket. They'd rather have smouldering cocktail sticks stuck into their eyes.

    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    It's long past time we declared war on Great Britain. This is the final provocation!
    Just try it chum! The Whitehouse could do with a new lick of paint.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    You see this is where you're argument falls down. No self-respecting european would talk at any lenth about cricket. They'd rather have smouldering cocktail sticks stuck into their eyes.

    Well I never said I was right, but how could I let an opportunity like this just go by without attempting to poke a stick in someone else's pride?

    We americans love to do that to IA.
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    Isn't this just a side effect of the fall of the dollar?
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    Isn't this just a side effect of the fall of the dollar?
    SSSSHHHHHHHH you dont want them to start thinking that thier fortune is directly attributed somehow to the american currency.

    Imagine the ego blow?
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    I say we deliver an ultimatum to those shifty British people: Give us the Isle of Man as a permanent military base, plus maybe a copyright to the print and broadcast image of the white cliffs of Dover, and maybe, maybe we won't invade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    I say we deliver an ultimatum to those shifty British people: Give us the Isle of Man as a permanent military base, plus maybe a copyright to the print and broadcast image of the white cliffs of Dover, and maybe, maybe we won't invade.
    You can have Man, just as long as you take Stoke Newington and Hackney in London, also Middlebrough and Gillingham.

    We'd swap them for Malibu beach.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Can we have New York? Isn't like they are using it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    I say we deliver an ultimatum to those shifty British people: Give us the Isle of Man as a permanent military base, plus maybe a copyright to the print and broadcast image of the white cliffs of Dover, and maybe, maybe we won't invade.
    Isn't that a bit like asking to use Germany as a military base?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    It's long past time we declared war on Great Britain. This is the final provocation!
    THird time may not be a charm....

    #1 -- win! Start new country etc. Did need a bit of help.

    #2 -- draw. Sure we had the best victory of the war...after it ended. But D.C. was trashed and our shppping economy landlocked by blockade.

    #3 -- you see the direction of this trend don't you?




    Side note: Every time we go to war with England, somebody here gets the bright idea to invade Canada. We then invade and lose. This time, given the expansive Canadian military, that would be REALLY embarrassing.
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    You see, Seamus Fermanagh has it.

    When will you Yanks learn?
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Ah...succes! Irritation and friction! About time we had ourselves a good transatlantic tussle. Too much cuddling up lately.

    I, for one, welcome my new American underlings. And I congratulate Britain for her splendid victory.*


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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin
    . My brother in law is British and every other weekend I get to hear him rail on about the wonders of the european lifestyle, odd he chose to life here. Something about his ability to make money and pay less taxes but I digress...
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    However, because goods and services are cheaper in the US, Americans will have stronger purchasing power, it added.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odin
    SSSSHHHHHHHH you dont want them to start thinking that thier fortune is directly attributed somehow to the american currency.

    Imagine the ego blow?
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    It said the improved UK position reflected the sustained strong growth it has enjoyed since then and the recent strength of sterling. Mr Cooper said: "The UK has been catching up steadily with living standards in the US since 2001, so it is a well-established trend rather than simply the result of currency fluctuations."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    My apologies I know reading is such a bore. Generally I find attacks on others, particularly unfounded and unmerited ones, reflect far more on the attacker and their fears then the reality of what is happening with those under assault.
    ATTACK!!!

    Hey, it was the French plan in the opening days of WW I so don't knock it.


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    It's about time we strengthen our military economy again, that will increase our GDP a lot and get rid of the high unemployment rate.


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