SOS--MONGOLS!!!!!!

[phonicsmonkey]

Byzantines are great against Mongols

Try an all-cav stack starting with fifteen of the best horse archers you can field.

(Skythions are not really up to it, but Byz Cav are surprisingly effective especially if you can get them an armour upgrade or two.)

Add a high dread general.

Then four of the best heavy cav you can find. Lancers will do, but try to field at least Latinkon and if you're playing Kingdoms: Crusades (I wasn't sure from your post) get some Archetopoloi out there, these bearded oldies really know how to skewer some Mongol.

Horse archer tactics are described in detail elsewhere (try Doug-thomson's excellent guide "Hunters all their Lives" somewhere on this forum), but generally speaking try to surround them and take out their missile cav, foot missiles, heavy cav in that order

don't let their general escape the battlefield - if you can kill him that's one step closer to eradicating the mongols

good luck soldier

[regor]

What phonicsmonkey said, but with more heavy cav.
You need them to take out their Mongol counterparts, plus they are much more efficient infantry killers, as they haven't got any spears.
You could go all HA, but they will be hard pressed to do everything.

Remember not to try and out shoot their entire army! It can be done, but you will suffer greatly.
Instead, skirmish your (supirior numbers of) HA against theirs, but once the hacking starts, counter heavy cav with heavy cav., and use your HA to destroy their unprotected archers. That will bring their HAs to the fight, and from then on it's only a question of getting their general. Once he's down, the fight is yours.

Succes is a matter of definition with the Mongols. It's not hard to beat them stack v. stack, but they have lots of full power stacks. My yard stick is roughly:
If one of my stacks can beat two of theirs (in two consecutive battles), and the said stack hasn't lost more than 2-3 units --> patt on the back for me.

Last bit of advice: respect the Mongols!
If you look at their unit's stats you might not be impressed, however keep in mind all those gold chevrons and the inevitable high stats general.

[ColIndyJackson]

Gents:

Good evening from Canada!! I hope this finds you and yours well. As for me, I could complain...yadda, yadda, yadda.

@Quillan: I'm playing Lusted's most excellent mod, LTC 4.0. This guy is sooo full surprises!!!! Having Prince John of the Byzantine Empire out in the boonies (read: Tblisi) was one of them.

Live long and prosper, take care and thank you kindly!!!

Sincerely yours always,

Indy.