Kart-Hadast reforms

[anubis88]

I have all the requairements and the fixes for the reform, but ther is none
What should i do?

P.S( is it Kart or Qart hadast?)

thanx for all potential help

[bovi]

First: You activated the script? Sorry, have to ask.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Make sure you have everything, especially the L5 Regional MICs. The Kart-Hadast reform is one of the more complicated ones.

[anubis88]

Make sure you have everything, especially the L5 Regional MICs. The Kart-Hadast reform is one of the more complicated ones.

well.... i do have the highest MIC possible in gader, Mastia, Kart-hadast, Adrumentum, Atiqa, Ippone and Lepki....

I hope you can build the level 5 MIC over there....
I also have Arse, so i have the 3 cities requairemnts


And Bovi, of course i activeted the script
I'm kinda an EB veteran

[anubis88]

i cheated a little to build the highest MIC in all of my cities, ended the turn but still no reform:/....

I'ts a really nice campaign but it's getting a little boring without the reforms...

[Kepper]

press ended the turn some more turn, it takes some trun to take affect, in the Celtic reform, i have to wait two turn before you get the message.

[Disciple of Tacitus]

Is there a link/thread re: reforms? One of my fav factions is Kart-hadast and I've yet to play w/ the reforms. I am playing Sab'yn right now and am feeling like it is an exercise in futility. Don't get me wrong - I'm having fun, but just know that if the Grey Death doesn't get me, the Yellow Death will.
If I can learn how to activate the reforms for Kart-Hadast, then that will be my next campaign!

[Sassem]

Do you have the type 4 Gov's in the city's only this government will give you access to the highest barracks

I believe they called Royal barracks

here is a a link to the post that i posted in the FAQ

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=131

[anubis88]

Do you have the type 4 Gov's in the city's only this government will give you access to the highest barracks

I believe they called Royal barracks

here is a a link to the post that i posted in the FAQ

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=131

Oh.... crap .... what am i supossed to do now?.... i have mostly level 3 provinces.... how about the homeland level 1 ones... they count as level 5 MIC do they?

P.S. Did Carthage really had to go through all this trouble to copy the romans a little?

[Sassem]

Oh.... crap .... what am i supossed to do now?.... i have mostly level 3 provinces.... how about the homeland level 1 ones... they count as level 5 MIC do they?

P.S. Did Carthage really had to go through all this trouble to copy the romans a little?

I had the same reaction as you had i just wait till 200bc then the reform will happen also


I don't no if it's a bug but i wished that they would explain it a little better next time

[anubis88]

I just cheated to see if i'll get the reforms, i built 7 level 5 barracks in Atiqa, Lepki, Adrumentum, Kart-Hadast(dunno if it counts) Arse, Mastia and Sucum-Murgi, played a few turns and seen no signs of a reform... Now this is really upseting me becouse it's a nice campaign. I gave rome Corsica and Sardinia after they conquered sicily, so now they're faring pretty well, and waging war with epeiros, Pontos has become a powerhouse, they have conquered almost all of Asia Minor plus 4 cities in Europe, and i managed to help with a little "rebelion in cyrencia so i don't have to worry about the Ptoly wars wich are completly ahistorical.

Is there any way to trigger the reforms manually by not waiting till 200BC?

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Carthage: 1

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
-At least year 235BC
-Build at least 5 (L5 regional MIC)(royal_barracks_V1) in these cities (Lepki, Garama, Adrumeto, Kirtan, Ippone, Tuat, Siga, Lixus, Sala, Gader, Mastia, Sucum-Murgi, Baikor, Arsé, Oxtraca, Numantia, Emporion, Tyde, Pallantia, Vellika, Tolosa, Massalia, Segesta, Arretium, Ariminum, Roma, Capua, Arpi, Taras, Rhegion)
-Hold 3 of these cities (Tolosa, Massalia, Segesta, Arretium, Ariminum, Roma, Capua, Arpi, Taras, Emporion, Arse, Mastia, Gader)
OR
-Wait until 200BC

That's from the FAQ.

[anubis88]

That's from the FAQ.

Your point? I have all the FAQ requairements

[Sassem]

Originally Posted by anubis88

Your point? I have all the FAQ requairements

I think you have to read the post from @Centurio Nixalsverdrus about that FAQ very closely

I think you missed something about where you have to build those barracks and what you settlements you have to own

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Your point? I have all the FAQ requairements

Atiqua and Karthago do not count but you built the highest Lvl MIC there. Did you change the government to a type 4 in these cities too? Or did you build a Factional MIC there? That doesn't count for the Reforms. You are able to build Lvl 5 Regional MICs only with a Lvl 4 government, and, as I stated, Karthago and Atiqua don't count for the Reform requirements. In what year are you?

[anubis88]

Ohh..... so for the reforms to work you need to conquer areas which were never in Carthage's dominion? That's sounds just wrong.... So a factional level 5 MIC doesn't count? Oh christ....

Better start thinking to start a new campaign...

IMHO the reform triggers should be changed for 1.1

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

The only city you need to conquer is Arsé. You can build your Lvl 5 Regional MICs in cities which are in Carthage's empire already at the start of the game. For example Adrumeto, Ippone, Lepki, Mastia and Gader. But you would have to change government to Lvl 4 (Allied State) there. This wouldn't take more than 2 turns of course. And it has to be at least 235BC.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Kart-Hadast has different government requirements for building their MICs. I believe Kart-Hadast can build a L5 Regional in a Type3 government (and maybe a Type2).

[anubis88]

The only city you need to conquer is Arsé. You can build your Lvl 5 Regional MICs in cities which are in Carthage's empire already at the start of the game. For example Adrumeto, Ippone, Lepki, Mastia and Gader. But you would have to change government to Lvl 4 (Allied State) there. This wouldn't take more than 2 turns of course. And it has to be at least 235BC.

Yes i know. But i doubt that these cities were ment for one to change them to level 4 goverments.... I just think this reform is to complicated. The AI probably never gets it

[Mouzafphaerre]

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The reforms and governments are, AFAIK, given away to the AI by the script. Don't worry for it.
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