List of building upgrades for valour bonus ?

[Jxrc]

Was wondering if there would be a list of the building requirement to get a valour bonus for each type of unit. Straighforward for some units that only need one kind of building (spearmen, archers, arbs, Xbows, militia, sword, halb, etc) but trickier for those who require a combo. The only one I know for sure is for mounted seargents (master horsebreeder is enough, no need to get more than the initially required spearmaker). Any tips ?

[caravel]

Units depending on the horse breeder line always get their bonus from that line regardless of other dependencies. There are only two units that depend on more than one of the other valour bonus giving master level building building. Futwwa are one and I can't remember the other. IIRC those units get their valour bonus from the first building listed as their build requirement in the unit prod file.

[Jxrc]

Units depending on the horse breeder line always get their bonus from that line regardless of other dependencies.

Are you sure ? I do not remember that feudal or chivalric knights would get +1 valour just by building a master horse breeder

[Haccapelite]

I'm also pretty sure that you don't get a valour bonus to any knight units with the master horse breeder, at least in my Sweden-campaing I don't. Correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC units only get a valour bonus from the master level -building if they can be recruited from a lower level building, for expample you don't get a valour bonus to bulgarian brigands because they are only available from the master bowyer, you only gain the regional bonus.

[caravel]

Are you sure ? I do not remember that feudal or chivalric knights would get +1 valour just by building a master horse breeder

This is because feudal and chivalric knights, among all other knights units, do not depend on the horse breeder, instead they depend on the royal court line of buildings.

Units depending on the horse breeder line...

Haccapelite, correct units that depend on a master level building don't receive the normal valour bonus from it.

[Jxrc]

This is because feudal and chivalric knights, among all other knights units, do not depend on the horse breeder, instead they depend on the royal court line of buildings.

OK thus only the German and Italian can get a valour bonus if they build the baronial Estate (? - the stuff needed for gothic knights) ?

For units which require to kind of buildings, you mentioned that "IIRC those units get their valour bonus from the first building listed as their build requirement in the unit prod file." Where can you get that Unit prod File ? Do not remeber seeing building requirements in the unit description but I could be wrong. There are not many of those for Catholics (I can only remember mounted seargeants, chiv Knights and feudal knights). All other catholic units requiring a combo that I can remeber also require something at master level.

I have not played with a muslim or orthodox faction for a while but I remember that it was not uncommon for some Turkish units at least to require some kind of bow and sword building ...

[caravel]

OK thus only the German and Italian can get a valour bonus if they build the baronial Estate (? - the stuff needed for gothic knights) ?

This would be correct, if the Baronial Estate building gives a valour bonus that is. I'm not sure if it does. Obviously Gothic Knights won't get the bonus anyway becuase they depend on it, but I'm not sure that the building has it. (can't check because I'm at work now)

For units which require to kind of buildings, you mentioned that "IIRC those units get their valour bonus from the first building listed as their build requirement in the unit prod file." Where can you get that Unit prod File ? Do not remeber seeing building requirements in the unit description but I could be wrong. There are not many of those for Catholics (I can only remember mounted seargeants, chiv Knights and feudal knights). All other catholic units requiring a combo that I can remeber also require something at master level.

The unit prod file crusaders_unit_prod11.txt is in the MTW working directory. You can open it with the gnome editor, which is the best way to open it until you get familiarised with it. This is a table where the prerequisites, stats and all other attributes for all units are listed. Changing anything in there changes the game so be careful.

I have not played with a muslim or orthodox faction for a while but I remember that it was not uncommon for some Turkish units at least to require some kind of bow and sword building ...

Futuwwa.