how do i trigger the exist of armoured general bodyguards?

[guineawolf]

how do i trigger the exist of armoured general bodyguards in version 1.5?

[mrdun]

Is it not the Marian Reforms?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Yep, the Marian Reforms triggers all factions to have their bodyguards upgraded/modified. The Marian Reforms are triggered by at least one Roman Imperial Palace existing in Italy/Scilly excluding Rome. The definition of Italy includes the provinces which start out under Gallic control in the North.

[Quirinus]

I have a related question: what determines that Egyptian generals will get a horseback bodyguard instead of a chariot bodyguard? Is it the Marian Reforms too? Because if that is so, isn't that something of a downgrade? Considering that the chariot bodyguard has five hitpoints, compared to the two of everyone else's?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Yep, that's also triggered by the Marius event. I wouldn't quite call it a downgrade though. Despite the larger hit points, I do find chariots to be fairly vulnerable in combat and not especially strong when they enter the fray.

[guineawolf]

then what will trigger the exist of armoured general bodyguard if i wipe out the romans before they reach marius reforms?

coz my thracian general bodyguard won't get their armoured general bodyguard yet.....

[Quirinus]

Yep, that's also triggered by the Marius event. I wouldn't quite call it a downgrade though. Despite the larger hit points, I do find chariots to be fairly vulnerable in combat and not especially strong when they enter the fray.

Really? 'Cos I've never been able to kill a chariot general without incurring horrific casualties myself. Not to mention, their missile fire is deadly, so that lowly peltasts are useless against it. It is outgunned by the chariot general, as well as not being able to escape should the general decide to charge.

[Hannibalbarc]

how do i trigger the exist of armoured general bodyguards in version 1.5?

Modding.

[Maxov]

Easiest way to destroy chariots, is letting them meet any phalanx from the front. Instant kill, even with the lowest quality hoplites. I like chariots a lot though, they die easily, especially in phalanx battles, but the 'Frighten nearby infantry' makes them divine.

[Spartan198]

Modding.

Are you sure? Because I play Rome v. 1.5 and my bodyguards always seem to upgrade once my first city reached Huge level,and this was most-commonly long after I'd dealt the early killing stroke to the Romans and eliminated them before the Mariam Reforms.

[Hannibalbarc]

Are you sure? Because I play Rome v. 1.5 and my bodyguards always seem to upgrade once my first city reached Huge level,and this was most-commonly long after I'd dealt the early killing stroke to the Romans and eliminated them before the Mariam Reforms.

You don't have to mod, I'm just saying its the fastest way to get them.

[Spartan198]

Oh,okay. Thanks for clearifying that,Hannibal.