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    I don't think much of the article, but on the wider point - it seems widely assumed that Hilary's tears were fake, but I liked Joe Klein's comment - she's not that good an actress; if she were, she'd be doing much better.

    If it were her husband, then absolutely, the tears would be faked. He's fantastic at emoting as the situation requires. But she has the Al Gore stiffness that makes her struggle against "naturals" like her husband and perhaps Obama.

    Given that the tears were genuine, they still are rather odd as Maureen O'Dowd pointed out in the NYT - she was getting emotional over the possibility of not being elected rather than the plight of others.

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    A woman in a men's world bursting in tears on tv and someone is actually wondering if it was genuine? I can't believe it! If she is so delicate, how come she is running for president? Because she is one ruthless cookie that is why. How would her fragile frame have gotten crying when there happens to be no camara?

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    Emotive BS from our Favorite Harpy

    "No woman is illegal"? What the hell does that mean?

    I have some ideas, but that is absolute pandering BS.

    If she means that no woman can be classified as "illegal", maybe. Can a woman be classified as an "immigrant"?

    Yes and Yes. It doesn't define them, but it correctly characterizes their status in the view of the legal system.
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    "No woman is illegal"? What the hell does that mean?
    Gee, I dunno. Why don't you ask Mitt Romney? He can even ask it his illegal employees in Spanish.

    For about eight years, Rosales said, he worked on and off landscaping the grounds at Romney's home, occasionally getting a "buenos dias" from Romney or a drink of water from his wife, Ann.

    "She is very nice," said Rosales, 49.

    About 6 miles away in Copado, a 37-year-old man who recently returned to Guatemala from the United States told a similar story, describing long days tending Romney's 2 1/2-acre grounds.

    "They wanted that house to look really nice," said the worker, who asked to remain anonymous. "It took a long time."

    As Governor Mitt Romney explores a presidential bid, he has grown outspoken in his criticism of illegal immigration. But, for a decade, the governor has used a landscaping company that relies heavily on workers like these, illegal Guatemalan immigrants, to maintain the grounds surrounding his pink Colonial house on Marsh Street in Belmont.

    The Globe recently interviewed four current and former employees of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, the tiny Chelsea-based company that provides upkeep of Romney's property. All but one said they were in the United States illegally.
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    That is a classic deflection.

    My lawn is mowed by immigrants. The guy who we hired uses them.
    My parents don't know what to do. I suspect that they don't really care.

    That is different than saying that they are not illegal.
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    Actually it is called dishonesty when someone lacks integrity.

    Integrity - when your word and actions are one.

    When you go on about illegals being wrong and then use them even through a third party then you are being a hypocrite.

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    As for your parents they can always turn the company in to the IRS... I'm sure there is a lot of missing income taxes there.
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    In Contrast to Obama, Hillary Plays the Race Card
    By Dick Morris

    On the evening of Jan. 3, it became clear that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was going to be a serious candidate for president with a viable chance of winning. The Clintons decided that he was going, inevitably, to win a virtually unanimous vote from the black community. Their own reputation for support for civil rights would make no difference.

    With a black candidate within striking distance of the White House, a coalescing of black voters behind his candidacy became inevitable.

    Frustratingly for the Clintons, Obama had achieved this likely solidarity among black voters without, himself, summoning racial emotions. He had gone out of his way to avoid mentioning race -- quite a contrast with Hillary, whose every speech talks about her becoming the first female president. But precisely to distinguish himself from the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of American politics, Obama resisted any racial appeal or even reference. His rhetoric, argumentation, and presentation was indistinguishable from a skilled white candidate's.

    So the Clintons faced a problem: With Obama winning the black vote, how were they to win a sufficient proportion of the white electorate to offset his advantage?

    Not racists themselves, they decided, nonetheless, to play the race card in order to achieve the polarization of the white vote that they needed to offset that among blacks.

    They embarked on a strategy of talking about race -- mentioning Martin Luther King Jr., for example -- and asking their surrogates to do so as well. They have succeeded in making an election that was about gender and age into one that is increasingly about race.

    According to the Rasmussen poll of Monday, Jan. 14, Obama leads among blacks by 66-16 while Hillary is ahead among whites by 41-27. The overall head to head is 37-30 in favor of Hillary.

    It does not matter which specific reference to race can be traced to whom. Obama's campaign has resisted any temptation to campaign on race and, for an entire year, kept the issue off the front pages. Now, at the very moment that the crucial voting looms, the election is suddenly about race. Obviously, it is the Clintons' doing. Remember the adage: Who benefits?

    As Super Tuesday nears, the Clintons will likely take their campaign to a new level, charging that Obama can't win.

    They will never cite his skin color in this formulation, but it will be obvious to all voters what they mean: that a black cannot get elected.

    The Clintons are far from above using race to win an election. Running for president in the aftermath of the 1992 Los Angeles race riots, Clinton seized on a comment made by rapper Sister Souljah in an interview with her published on May 13, 1992 in The Washington Post. She said, "If black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people?"

    Clinton pounced, eager to show moderates that he was not a radical and was willing to defy the political correctness imposed on the Democratic Party by the civil rights leadership. In a speech to the Rainbow Coalition he said, "If you took the words 'white' and 'black' and you reversed them, you might think David Duke was giving that speech," an allusion to the former Klansman then running for public office in Louisiana.

    The Clintons will be very careful about how they go about injecting race into the campaign. Part of their strategy will be to provoke discussion of whether race is becoming a factor in the election. Anything that portrays Obama as black and asks about the role of race in the contest will serve their political interest. And you can bet that there is nothing they won't do ... if they can get away with it.

    Morris, a former political adviser to Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and President Bill Clinton, is the author of “Outrage.” To get all of Dick Morris’s and Eileen McGann’s columns for free by email, go to www.dickmorris.com.
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