I am sorry, I will not join this discussion as I don't have enough time to write what I would say on some subject mentioned.
However I find it irritating that, seeing as I have just joined the backroom in the failing search of decent conversation, this subject is pattered and scarred hither and thither with little remarks to the effect of, "Why do you people constantly have to talk silly-billy politics? Is that all you do? Can we not just leave it?", in a Political section of the forum.

There is enough one-line sarcasm everywhere else on the forum, this is the place which self-defines as respectable speech and argument.