Opinions on LTC

[ReiseReise]

Everyone seems to be talking about LTC, i am just wondering what people think of it, and more specifically, what the actual gameplay changes are. Don't give me a link, i want to know OPINIONS. I know i should just try it and see for myself, but this is 'the way I are' - overly cautious and afraid of change, as I have been told by several women in my life

[Galain_Ironhide]

IMO it has definatley more going for it than against it. Once you get used to the unit rebalancing (to the way it should be) you'll be wondering why you didnt download it sooner.

The battle AI seems a lot smarter, I lost to the mongols in my Turkish campaign probably 3 times in decisive battles, that I know I would have won in vanilla 1.2 (allbeit with lower grade troops at the time).

The diplomacy works better too.

If you don't have Kingdoms (like me), version 3.1 is all you need. Plus it is a very simple download which creates its own icons on your desktop,so is very easy to operate. Also the other plus that I have noticed is that on my system, the mod has never crashed, unlike what I have heard happens on many other mods.

I'm much like you Reise, I don't like change at all, but I bit the bullet and went for it and havent looked back.

Best of luck which ever way you choose!

[Lusted]

and more specifically, what the actual gameplay changes are.

I've tried to keep as much of the vanilla gameplay as possible. The unit balancing is the same as that used in the Kingdoms Crusades campaign, effect of religious unrest has been increased slightly. Diplomacy and campaign AI have been improved, battle AI has been tweaked to make it flank more etc. Some tweaks to city/castle system(unit recruitment buildings cheaper in castles, made more expensive in cities, castles make less money, cities more etc., but overall just small tweaks). Recruitment is more logical and so most recruitment moved from walls to barracks, stables and ranges. AI builds more balanced armies. And some new campaign maps thrown in(Hundred Years War, Italian City States and Reconquista in 3.1, those and Grand Campaign replaced with Early, High and Late era campaigns in Gold).

[ReiseReise]

Thanks guys, I was really wondering if Lusted was going to chime in on this one, but here you are!!! I will check it out.

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Is the speed at which soldiers walk during battles increased since 3.1 (or earlier versions)? I played one battle where I assaulted a city. I ordered my soldiers to storm the castle and they walked very slowly to the open gate. It was like a funeral march. I immediately quited battle and uninstalled the mod. I liked the rest of it but the very slow walking soldiers was simply not my idea of a realistic battle.

[Lusted]

The walking speed is the same as in Kingdoms.

[Ethelred Unread]

Is the speed at which soldiers walk during battles increased since 3.1 (or earlier versions)? I played one battle where I assaulted a city. I ordered my soldiers to storm the castle and they walked very slowly to the open gate. It was like a funeral march. I immediately quited battle and uninstalled the mod. I liked the rest of it but the very slow walking soldiers was simply not my idea of a realistic battle.

You knew that soldiers can run with ladders right?

[Askthepizzaguy]

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IMO it has definatley more going for it than against it. Once you get used to the unit rebalancing (to the way it should be) you'll be wondering why you didnt download it sooner.

The battle AI seems a lot smarter, I lost to the mongols in my Turkish campaign probably 3 times in decisive battles, that I know I would have won in vanilla 1.2 (allbeit with lower grade troops at the time).

The diplomacy works better too.

If you don't have Kingdoms (like me), version 3.1 is all you need. Plus it is a very simple download which creates its own icons on your desktop,so is very easy to operate. Also the other plus that I have noticed is that on my system, the mod has never crashed, unlike what I have heard happens on many other mods.

I'm much like you Reise, I don't like change at all, but I bit the bullet and went for it and havent looked back.

Best of luck which ever way you choose!

Agreed. Vanilla tastes too bland now, by comparison.

I haven't played Vanilla since. What's the point?

Thats like going back to preschool. It's not even nostalgia.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I installed 3.1, and I think it's brilliant. Simple answer.

[Joh]

Since you guys seem to have spent a few hours in front of your computers, could you give me your opinions on the best mod between (I have Kingdoms btw)?

• Lands to conquer, LTC
• The Long Road, TLR
• Stainless Steel

I am aware there are many others, but these ones seem to be the most interesting. Other suggestions are welcome, but my playing time is unfortunately very limited

[Vladimir]

Since you guys seem to have spent a few hours in front of your computers, could you give me your opinions on the best mod between (I have Kingdoms btw)?

• Lands to conquer, LTC
• The Long Road, TLR
• Stainless Steel

I am aware there are many others, but these ones seem to be the most interesting. Other suggestions are welcome, but my playing time is unfortunately very limited

LTC: French Vanilla (very good!). How can you not try it given all of his hard work?

The Long Road: Very good with its own unique characteristics, a great feel, but finished.

Stainless Steel: The best, period. LTC is the most "finished" mod I've tried but the latest SS is just more; it's well beyond the diminishing return curve but could use a little polish. SS 6.0 is in the works too! In naval terms: LTC: English navy, SS: USA Navy.

[crpcarrot]

Since you guys seem to have spent a few hours in front of your computers, could you give me your opinions on the best mod between (I have Kingdoms btw)?

• Lands to conquer, LTC
• The Long Road, TLR
• Stainless Steel

I am aware there are many others, but these ones seem to be the most interesting. Other suggestions are welcome, but my playing time is unfortunately very limited

ive only played LTC 3.1 and SS so i dont offer any opinion on TLR.

my personal preference is LTC over SS due to the simple fact that the mods tries to change the game as little as possible while making it more in line with the Original MTW while fixing a lot of bugs. but the game broadly still sticks to how the developers meant it to be.

although SS as a mod is impressive due to the amount of changes new provices, units traits etc the battles just didnt seem right to me. the chnages to cavalry and weppons however realistic they may be really didnt seem conducive to interesting gameplay. the strategy map is really very good though.