Historical Faction Members

[Spartan198]

I'm curious - how many of you guys and gals have ever run upon faction members (either yours or others) bearing historical names? These are who I've found in my campaigns to far:
Hannibal Barca - Rebel faction member I bribed during my first Punic campaign
Hamilcar Barca - Numidian family member I tried unsuccessfully to bribe during said campaign (edit: ran into who I believe is this individual again and may have misread,actual name possibly being "Himilcar",not "Hamilcar",and henceforth NOT historical)
Gaius Octavius - My faction leader in my current Julii campaign
Alexander the Great - Earned this nickname for my conquest of the entire southern Mediterranean during my last Seleucid campaign
Gaius Marius - Faction heir alongside Gaius Octavius in my current Julii campaign.

I'm just curious as to how many of you all have encountered anyone bearing historical names.

[Marcus Furius Camillus]

Lucius Ahaenobarbus ( NERO ! )- adopted faction member during Julii campaign

Gaius Verres - adopted faction member during Julii campaign

[Spartan198]

It's great when you can conquer a region with the general who historically did so.

[Quirinus]

Whoa...... it would be cool to encounter Mithradates for Pontus or something.

I encountered Gaius Octavius too, when I was playing the Carthagenians. Corrupt bastard, though, I bribed him and promptly sent him to spearhead the invasion of Italy. ~:D

Oh, and I've encountered Vercingatorix once, I think, as a captain for Gaul.

Antiochus, the faction leader for the Seleucids, was a real person though-- became king about 11 years before the start of the game at the assassination of his father, the eponymous Seleucus.

[Spartan198]

I've actually run into Vercingetorix as a captain several times,but it's possible it could just be a lowly soldier bearing the name. The name Alexander is common to the Hellenic factions,after all. And I actually had the same problem with Octavius as you,but I edited his traits to make him Augustus Pre-born!

[Paradox]

I remember running into Pyrrhus against the Seleucids, I don't think he was the faction leader though.

[Paradox]

Hannibal Barca - Rebel faction member I bribed during my first Punic campaign

Sorry for the double post, but I can see why they made Hannibal Barca a Rebel Faction Leader instead of a Carthaginian, it's because historically, his homeland deserted him and he received no reinforcements but still advanced onto Rome.

[Telys]

I was playing a greek campaign last night and ran across a few historical name. Though not in the right time. I had a diplomat name Ephialtes, another diplomat named Aristotle, And a General named Menelaos of Sparta.

[Spartan198]

Don't sweat double post,no big deal. Anyhow,my "hiring" of a rebel Hannibal Barca occured in the Sahara region a few turns after I'd annexed Numidia's last settlement,so it's possible he could have been a Numidian family member.

[Paradox]

Well, according to the files, "Hannibal Barca" and even his brother are listed as one of the Carthaginian names you randomly get, the game would've been better if you started with Hannibal.

I have a question, does Gaius Julius Caesar appear at some point in the game? Because I've seen Gaius Cornelius Scipio many times.

[Quirinus]

Don't they only list the two names, without the cognomen? Meaning, it should be only 'Gaius Julius', shouldn't it?

By the way, what files would you check for a list of the possible names?

[Paradox]

There's a bunch of middle names listed in the files.

Program Files > The Creative Assembly (or Activision) > Rome - Total War > Data > ???

You'll find it on one of the "desc_...." files.

[Quirinus]

Aiee.... it must be because mine is v1.3, I can't see any middle names, neitehr 'Hannibal' is in the Numidian name list, nor do Numidians have surnames. :S Also, there is, mysteriously, a list for a faction called 'Illyria'.

It's descr_names, right?

[Paradox]

Yes, that's right. Don't search for Hannibal in Numidia, search for it in the Carthage section, you'll find many familiar names.

[Barbarian]

If I remember right, I once bribed Vercingetorix as Brutii, and he got a high seat in the Senate

Have met tons of historical characters. Out of those, who have not been mentioned I meet briton captain Budic often and in barbarian invasion huns always get Attila as one of their family members.

PS: Play until the middle of the first century BC, maybe a character named Gaius Julius Ceasar will appear

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

I have also had Hannibal Barca, as a rebel. Seems to be fairly common.

Funniest I had, was Spurius Maelius (guy who tried to overthrow the Republic) as the Julii, the next candidate for marriage was Ahala (the guy that killed him). Sadly though this Ahala was Julianus rather than Servilius.

I also had a Gaius Julius, who was useless, and Publius Ventidius who defended Asia minor against the Ptolmeys rather than the Parthians.

[Spartan198]

If I remember right, I once bribed Vercingetorix as Brutii, and he got a high seat in the Senate

Have met tons of historical characters. Out of those, who have not been mentioned I meet briton captain Budic often and in barbarian invasion huns always get Attila as one of their family members.

PS: Play until the middle of the first century BC, maybe a character named Gaius Julius Ceasar will appear

I made a copy of the descr_names file and have searched it over numerous times,but the name "Caesar" doesn't seem to be present,so as much as we would like that to happen,I doubt it will. But the furthest I've played is only to about 127 BC,though,so you never know who'll show up. I never exactly expected to have Hannibal Barca himself leading Carthage!

P.S. - Just yesterday I bribed Marcus Antonius from the defunct Brutii. Then I sent him to govern Alexandria,while my faction leader,Gaius Octavius (aka Augustus pre-born) rules in Rome!

Edit - I wonder if it would be possible to modify the file and add it?

[Spartan198]

Aiee.... it must be because mine is v1.3, I can't see any middle names, neitehr 'Hannibal' is in the Numidian name list, nor do Numidians have surnames. :S Also, there is, mysteriously, a list for a faction called 'Illyria'.

It's descr_names, right?

Yeah,Ive seen the "Illyria" list,too. Don't quite remember for sure if any of the names appeared in the campaign. The only Illyrians to spawn are Illyrian mercenary skirmisher units,but my armies are always packed too full of infantry,cavalry,and archers to make use out of them.

[Paradox]

Not Caesar, "Gaius Julius" is the one you should be looking for.

[mrdun]

I had a ten star General, Gaius Julius, I took over most of Gaul but was repeatedly attacked by a 7 star Vercingetorix who was about 20 yr old. I only accept marriages when their names are historic, sulla, marius, octavian etc.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

I have to admit I prefer it when the names are historical, but I'm a bit more lenient. I had a Sempronius once as well, but not Tiberius, Gaius or Gracchus... shame.

There are loads of historical names in there you just have to look out for them. And don't expect them to pop up every time.

[Spartan198]

Just came off a BI campaign as the Eastern Empire and couldn't wait to post! Lived possibly my greatest battle ever - 7-star general/faction leader and army met face to face with Romano-British warlord Artorius Castus (King Arthur!). He cut me to pieces and set my entire British invasion back by years (game years,I mean).

No,I'm not the least bit ashamed of this one at all!

[Punicus]

I once had an Alexander the Great as well. I've had some Hamilcar's and Hannibal's but never with Barca at the end of the name.

[Good Ship Chuckle]

If I'm not mistaken I believe the Seluecids start out with a historical figure. Their faction leader is Anitochus (III).

He was a Selucid King that ruled from 223 to 187 BC, so the time is roughly right. You can check this encyclopedia to see for yourself. http://www.reference.com/search?r=13&q=Antiochus%20III

He fought every one from Egyptians, Romans, to rebel greek cities, and Jewish insurrection. He eventually earned the name "Antiochus the Great" (Antiochos Megas)

[TruePraetorian]

I my campaigns i've seen a Hanibal Barca and some other barca that sounded familiar...I right now have a Gaius Julius at 12 years old and have seen a captain vercingetorix but never the man. I've also seen a marcus brutus (even though common) and a I ran across an Alexander in Macedon but he wasn't "The Great" yet.

[Quirinus]

I just encountered a "Quintis Sertorius" on my Scipii game. No, he wasn't a son-in-law. He wasn't adopted.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I laughed my ass off when I saw this.

[The Wandering Scholar]

I had a marriage opportunity with as Julii for a "caesarion" unfortunately I clicked the wrong option, a chance lost possibly for ever. He was useles but he could have had a Gaius somewhere down the line.

Earlier I was besieged by two Gaullic armies controlled by a "Captain Conan" Ha they're called Conan and they are Barbarian..

[Punicus]

Just noticed that in my current campaign the Dacians have a general by the name of Attila - well, had a general by the name of Attila.

[Quirinus]

Yeah! It's odd, how the Dacians have the name 'Attila'. In my Scipii game, the Dacians had a Captain Attila and actually got promoted to family member just before the Thracians wiped them out. Pity. I would have wanted to assassinate Attila myself.

[Spartan198]

At least you haven't run into Artorius Castus yet in BI.