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    I had an Aulus Plautius, but as an admiral (three stars) not a general. I used him to ferry over the army to invade Britain.

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    Can Admirals get cognomen? I thought admirals functioned like captains, mostly.
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    ooo I have never seen that. yes I thought is was Captain Plautius. Are you playing with vanilla rtw 1.5 o_loompah_the_delayer ?

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    Dacian family member, Attila.
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    Barbarian aswell

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    Another one, to bad she can't be a general.
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    I watched that film last night, Boudica. Not a bad film.

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    I have a suspicion that Arturus for the brits is built in so he always spawns!
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    All family trees do seem to always branch out in a specific way. All starting characters in my campaigns always seem to have the same children in every campaign. The same applies to their children and their subsequent offspring. They also often seem to develop similarly in every campaign also.

    I'm not too sure, but there probably is something hardcoded which makes this happen - its the same in modifications also. It may be the order the system looks in the name database, or it may be based on a different more obscure system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quirinus
    Can Admirals get cognomen? I thought admirals functioned like captains, mostly.
    Every admiral I've seen only goes as captain, but I believe once they get to legendary admiral they get "the navigator" epithet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
    All family trees do seem to always branch out in a specific way. All starting characters in my campaigns always seem to have the same children in every campaign. The same applies to their children and their subsequent offspring. They also often seem to develop similarly in every campaign also.

    I'm not too sure, but there probably is something hardcoded which makes this happen - its the same in modifications also. It may be the order the system looks in the name database, or it may be based on a different more obscure system.

    I've noticed that too, but their character potraits tend to be random, I think. So are their traits. Gyras can be Alexander reborn in one game and a meek, efficient administrator in the next. That's why I don't think it's hardcoded.
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    Gyras always starts the same as that is coded.

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    Hah? Is he? I'm not sure, I was just using a random Greek name. Which faction was he from? For some reason, the name sticks to me.
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    Gyras is the Macedonian faction heir at the start of the campaign. He's in Larissa,I think.
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    He sure is. Quite an able general

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    When he's not a useless lunkhead,like that time the AI charged him headlong into a Spartan phalanx during one of my past campaigns.
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    Haha the mighty AI strike gold again

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    It's not always something to complain about,just sometimes.

    PS - Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it would be cool to run into Mithrades with Pontus (but I can't find the post). Actually,Pontus' starting faction leader is named Mithrades,though it's the wrong time for him to be the historical Mithrades. Still a "historically-named" king,though,right?
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    A somewhat off-topic question here, but if I want to edit the avaliability of names, like adding a few names and removing a few names in descr_names, do I need to edit the descr_names_lookup as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quirinus
    A somewhat off-topic question here, but if I want to edit the avaliability of names, like adding a few names and removing a few names in descr_names, do I need to edit the descr_names_lookup as well?

    Didn't want to create a new thread about this.
    I'm a novice modder (my editing of family members' traits and ancilliaries is done in-game with cheats),so I'm not really sure. Your best bet would be to check the Scriptorium to first see if there are any tutorials. But if not,the best thing to do is to start a thread in the Modding Questions. That's where I go.

    But I do like the idea of adding and removing names via personal preference. I'll definitely be watching for an answer to this one.

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    edit everything with "names" i think there is 2/3 files..

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    To edit the starting characters just go in the same file that you go into to unlock all the factions I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whtdoesitmatta
    To edit the starting characters just go in the same file that you go into to unlock all the factions I believe.
    Can you edit factions to start with a specifically named character? Like if I wanted the Greek starting faction leader to be named "Narkissos" or something (or even name him after me?)?
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    To edit the starting characters just go in the same file that you go into to unlock all the factions I believe.
    No, I don't mean the starting characters, I mean the avaliability of names, so that the next son-in-law or son married/born into the family will have different names.

    This is for my Massiliote Greek game-- it'd be odd for my son-in-laws to all come from Greece when I'm long-established in Gaul. Plus, seeing "Attalus of Tolosa" or "Eugenius of Lugdunum" or whatever would impart a sort of flavour to my game, I suppose.

    EDIT: SpartanGlory198, I think so, though I haven't tried it.
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    I dont think that place of birth counts for cogomen.

    Spartan GLory has to be in the names files

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    I was gonna name a character "Travis of Sparta".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom0
    I dont think that place of birth counts for cogomen.
    It does, at least for Greek and barbarian and eastern family members.

    For example:
    Greek: Doros of Sparta, Kallimachus of Pella, Eugenius of Himera
    Barbarian: Leukon of Segovia, Rianorix of Verulamium, Ambiorix of Aduatucorum
    Eastern: Madyes of Satala, Melchior of Nishapur, Bagabigna of Charax

    ....etc, etc.

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    Been playing Extended Greek Mod since yesterday and found Pyrrhus of Epirus in southern Italy (but he's present at start),and I got a Leonidas of Sparta later on in the campaign (as the Greek City-States).
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    My julii faction leader, Augutus Julii (The first emporer of Rome) just happened to have a greek, philosophical, slave called Plato. The man who said....
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    I think it just generates names for characters from a list for each basic culture. The historical names you guys have found are probably little 'in-jokes' inserted by the programmers.
    'Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War' Plato

    'Ar nDuctas' O'Dougherty clan motto

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    'Forth Eorlingas!' motto of the Riders of Rohan

    'dammit, In for a Penny, In for a Pound!' the Duke of Wellington

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