Hoots Mon - any ideas????

**King Kurt** · 01-17-2008, 15:12

Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre

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Poor Scots.

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My thoughts exactly - but in some ways the challenge of expanding the Scotish empire without Crusades is what makes it interesting.

**macsen rufus** · 01-17-2008, 16:36

I got a message saying the seige was lifted and the French sent their thanks - then I got a ransom demand from the French for my troops in Flanders!! - has this ever happened to anybody before?

Yes, it always happens if you can't retreat from the province. That's why I never cross the sea to help an ally, unless I hold a province with a land border to the one where the siege is. Usually your invasion destroys the port if there is one, so you can't ship out again.

**King Kurt** · 01-17-2008, 17:57

Originally Posted by macsen rufus

Yes, it always happens if you can't retreat from the province. That's why I never cross the sea to help an ally, unless I hold a province with a land border to the one where the siege is. Usually your invasion destroys the port if there is one, so you can't ship out again.

Well - I never knew that!! As there was no battle, I assume that there was not a port in the first place - I must look the next time I fire up the campaign up. Seems a bit flaw really - it was annoying to be asked for over 9,000 florins after I had driven the English away!! I must admit I had gone to Flanders as I thought I might get the province if my force was bigger than the French - realised afterwards that would never happen as it was their's in the first place.

**macsen rufus** · 01-17-2008, 18:53

It is a bit sucky, I agree, but once you expect it, you can at least avoid it

I do tend to "lift the siege" the year after the stronghold has fallen: "Sorry guys, tried to help, you know what the roads are like these days, bit late, but anyway, I'll look after this bit of land that used to be yours..."

**r johnson** · 01-17-2008, 20:53

I keep thinking more and more I should go back to xl, I miss the many factions. Is BKB any good?

**Roark** · 01-18-2008, 03:04

Scandinavia???

Have you guys all lost the plot?

Flanders can fund an entire army with its income.

**seireikhaan** · 01-18-2008, 05:25

Originally Posted by Roark

Scandinavia???

Have you guys all lost the plot?

Flanders can fund an entire army with its income.

Plot? Perhaps your games seem to go differently, but in my experience, leaving the Danes a chance to colonize the rest of the world with their massive navy is NOT a good idea. Once they're out of the way(along with Norse and Swedes), you can take Flanders later. Plus, Sweden's pretty solid for income in its own right.

**Heidrek** · 01-18-2008, 03:22

From humble begings the Scotts begin to dominate!

My own Scottish campaign has started to stabilise. I've held my ground against the French legions and fought off an attempt to lift my siege of Toulouse. 1800 French troops came to relieve the siege against my 1100 besiegers. I pulled off a crushing win, causing 7:1 losses to the French. 200 Scotts and 1400 French troops died that day including their general. Though I needed cash, I couldn't afford to let over 600 captured troops tke the field against me again so I executed all prisoners.

The side effect was that it reset the siege time though so I now have even longer to wait them out. In the mean time though my allies, the Castile-Leonese have rallied and driven the French from Iberia as I hoped they would! they have even struck out from Navarre to take Aquitane. The French have gathered in Anjou. There is a stalemate of sorts happening now as I try to build my forces back up and the french regroup. I have no idea whats happening to the east but hopefully there is more pressure coming from that side.

Meanwhile the French navy has destroyed mine totally. They have an invincible stack of 15 Barques with a 5* commander that destroyed by stack of 9 ships, 6 of which were Caravels led by a 3*. the french lost not a single ship!