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    Finder of Little Oddities Senior Member Makanyane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    I dunno, worrying about recharging my mouse or keyboard sounds like the kind of fun you'd have at a llama insemination party. Not much, in other words. (Unless you're into that kind of thing ...)

    Gimme corded everything, dang it!*


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    never been to llama insemination part but cordless mice or keyboards with batteries (which always give up in middle of game / large document) drive me round the bend - and I can't really see the point - exactly how far away from your monitor can you be and still do anything useful?

    I used to love the logitech mice (great shape if you're right handed) but couldn't find a corded one last time I had to buy one, so have basic-ish microsoft mice and keyboard now as they were only reasonable wired bits I could find.

    (still trying to understand above post about bees though )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makanyane
    (still trying to understand above post about bees though )
    Hehe, there was this erm, news coverage a few months ago about bees disappearing through out the western world. Apparently through simple tests they found out that cellphones would utterly confuse the little things as they orientate using the magnetic field of our planet and cellphones(and most other wireless devices) send out electromagnetic waves which do apparently confuse the heck out of the bees' internal navigation system so it seems that they simply get lost in the wilderness until they die because they cannot find the way back to their hives.

    I'm not sure whether this has been 100% proven but it wouldn't surprise me seeing the explosion in the amount of wireless devices lately and on TV they showed how a bee would completely mess up this directional dance they do if they'd hold a cellphone close to it. The problem is that bees not only produce honey but are also vital for the reproduction of a lot of plants which may die out if there are no bees to carry their seeds(or was it pollen?) around. some people even spoke of a nutrition problem for humanity although that sounded a bit like scaremongering.
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    Are you telling me that my wireless mouse is going to destroy the world?


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    Tried a couple of mouses, including Razor Boomslang. A simple PS2 logitch mouse (2 buttons, scrollwheel) suited best and that's been used for years. Changed that to a basic USB MS optical mouse recently: realising that the ball needed to be cleaned again became an ordeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    Tried a couple of mouses, including Razor Boomslang. A simple PS2 logitch mouse (2 buttons, scrollwheel) suited best and that's been used for years. Changed that to a basic USB MS optical mouse recently: realising that the ball needed to be cleaned again became an ordeal.
    I agree with Tosa. Those old mouses with balls were troublesome. It was my hobbit clean the mouse.

    Now, I have the same mouse as Tosa have. An simple USB M$ mouse.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow
    Are you telling me that my wireless mouse is going to destroy the world?
    Yes, more or less.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    Hehe, there was this erm, news coverage a few months ago about bees disappearing through out the western world. Apparently through simple tests they found out that cellphones would utterly confuse the little things as they orientate using the magnetic field of our planet and cellphones(and most other wireless devices) send out electromagnetic waves which do apparently confuse the heck out of the bees' internal navigation system so it seems that they simply get lost in the wilderness until they die because they cannot find the way back to their hives.

    I'm not sure whether this has been 100% proven but it wouldn't surprise me seeing the explosion in the amount of wireless devices lately and on TV they showed how a bee would completely mess up this directional dance they do if they'd hold a cellphone close to it. The problem is that bees not only produce honey but are also vital for the reproduction of a lot of plants which may die out if there are no bees to carry their seeds(or was it pollen?) around. some people even spoke of a nutrition problem for humanity although that sounded a bit like scaremongering.
    Or 5 minutes of urban legend bees cell phones

    Yields:
    Bees, Cell Phones, and Human Extinction

    And … they’re off! The media, already starting to smell a good old-fashioned “fear culture” story with the bee disappearance, jumped all over this new connection as the next in a long line of stories exploiting our discomfort with complex modern technology. Throw the word “radiation” and “extinction” together with an electronic object we all hold up to our ears for minutes or hours per day, and you’ve got a crackin’ story, brother! A Google search of “bees AND cell phones” will tell you all you need to know about how fast the story spread around the internets, and the news portal Digg reports over 1300 hits for the original story, with an ensuing discussion that counter-proposes a “bee rapture” and bees’ ability to exist in six simultaneous dimensions as alternate CCD explanations.

    There’s a less exciting rebuttal to the cell phone-bee relationship, however; The Independent just read the damn study wrong. A quick reading of Kimmel’s paper shows that 1) it was a small pilot study with very subtle results and 2) they didn’t even use freaking cellular phones in the study. What Kimmel and friends actually tested was the ability of cordless phone base stations that were actually placed inside beehives, to throw off the navigation of bees. Bees were marked as they were leaving their hives (not a fun job, I imagine), and then hives with implanted phone stations were compared to non-phoned-up hives to see how many bees came back. In the end, bees were less likely to return to the hives with the electromagnetic radiation-spouting cordless phone bases, but only by the slimmest of statistically significant margins: 63% for the control group vs. 55% in the experimental groups.

    Obviously then, the jump from this short, humble little paper to “OH MY GOD CELL PHONES WILL KILL US ALL” requires a bit of creative license on the part of the newspaper. Caught in the middle were the researchers themselves, who were probably sitting around on April 14th muttering “nobody ever cares about our work” only to be wistfully recalling their long-lost obscurity by the 16th. As reported here and here and here, Kimmel and Kuhn were shocked by the distortion of their study, saying they never set out to study CCD, and bemoaning the media attention: “It's not my fault if people misinterpret our data,” said an obviously flustered Kimmel to the International Herald Tribune. “Ever since The Independent wrote their article, for which they never called or wrote to us, none of us have been able to do any of our work because all our time has been spent in phone calls and e-mails trying to set things straight. This is a horror story for every researcher to have your study reduced to this. Now we are trying to force things back to normal.”
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    With regards to the bee disappearance, maybe we're facing the same situation as in the Phillip K. Dick novel 'Do androids dream of electric sheep?', only without the nuclear war, and the owls being replaced with bees.

    Sure, we laugh at it now as did the people in the Electric Sheep universe, but how long before all animals are dead?

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    Got my trusty MX1000 - most of the graphics on it are worn away... True, I forget to charge it now and then (having an adapter for a different country to the one I'm in makes it a little more emotional trying to get the little bars to start ticking up). Being the cheapskate I am, I'm going to keep it 'til it breaks down. Then, well, it's gotta be Logitech. Symmetrical mice irritate me, especially those that are small as well. This one's nice and big, and fits into my hand quite neatly.
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    I've been using these for near on a decade in their various incarnations and I've never found anything that feels (or looks) better. Two thumb buttons is all I need and they work perfectly for my hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Productivity


    I've been using these for near on a decade in their various incarnations and I've never found anything that feels (or looks) better. Two thumb buttons is all I need and they work perfectly for my hand.
    That is what I switched away from. I was a big fan of the Intellimouse, though I preferred the old version with the larger thumb buttons. I have not had a good durability track record with them though, I've owned 3 in 7 years since the first two stopped working. One of the reasons I switched recently was that the third was also starting to act funny.


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