Trade rights...

[Domitio]

Hi !
What are the benefits of trade rights? Should I send diplomats out at the start of a campaign and stablish trade rights with every one? - donate "cheat money and populations" to other factions in order to influence the AI actions and make adversaries more competitive faster? Just wondering...

[PershsNhpios]

Competition in EB is curtailed partly by money, yes, but more thorougly by the strength of the Eleutheroi, and the solid fact that, (Excepting on Very Hard difficulty) AI factions will always choose to attack the Eleutheroi in preference to a neutral faction.

As for trade rights, this is a very variable question, and it depends on your position and upon your settlements.

Click upon one of your settlements, examine it using the details tab, and see honestly how great a revenue that settlement generates through trade.
This will tell you whether to upgrade the ports in that settlement.
Markets should always be upgraded in any case.

Myself, I have conquered Byzantion as the Getai, and find it a brilliant trading city, in addition to Mytilene, Crete and Alexandria - the Crimean holdings of mine also generate a tremendous amount of mnai for their position.
However, inland, my holdings surrounding the Carpathian mountains and lining the Pindus Mountains are terrible in relation to trade, however they are all very capable mining sites, and so, through different upgrades, allow me more mnai than my trading cities.

It does very much depend on how carefully you manage your settlements as to whether the question you ask will bring you a great amount of money.

However, either in the beginning or at any time in the game, you may wonder, "Should I establish trade rights everywhere?", and the answer is always yes, because if you haven't got a trading city now - chances are you soon will, and you want the revenue it can bring then and there.

Trade revenue can be seen by looking at the financial tab also.

In my experiences, the trade in this game is now where near as important as in Medieval: Total War, in which your entire kingdom could depend on trade, and be ruined by a declaration of war.. I have never had a nation dependent on trade in Rome: Total War.

[Achilles the last]

well the benefits are this, if you have trade rights with other factions, you get more money,especially if it is trade by sea, but i wouldnt relay on this too much, the factions usually backstab you

[beatoangelico]

on VH if you share a border with an allied AI faction sooner or later it will backstab you, but sometimes you can try to slow down the expansion of a stronger AI faction with indirect warfare - trade rights and monetary aid. In my Romani campaign this worked very well, I supported Epiros against KH, then when I started to wage war directly against the KH the Epirote backstabbed me, but now I face 2 weak enemies instead of a strong 1

[Domitio]

Thank you all for your responses. So, I gather that trade rights benefit both parties equally. What about a distant faction with no common borders and no "sea links" - Is there any indirect trade (if the "in between" factions are trading)?

[Pode]

Trade rights give a small positive to relations per turn IIRC, which helps to counteract the relationship malus per turn from H and VH campaign difficulty. I try to establish trade rights with even far off peoples as early as possible for this reason. Otherwise, later in the game when relations with that faction become important, they loathe me to the very depths of their being and are completely irrational in their dealings with me, just because too much time has gone by.