Strange Rebels

[Genaral Julis]

I recently spotted a rebal stack that had..Samnite Mercs, Hastai and Equites in it. I find this strange..anyone else seen any strange rebal stacks?

[Punicus]

That doesn't sound so strange to me, I've seen them plenty of times. I'm guessing you mean the armies are more professional than the typical militia armies that rebels have?

I've had cities rebel and turn out garrisons with decent units that have gold chevrons. It was with Carthage, so I think the units that came out were typical Carthaginian units like Iberians, Long Shields, etc.

[Genaral Julis]

Well these rebals appeared out of the blue.

[TruePraetorian]

Did it happen near italy? I've had that happen quite a few times in a Roman campaign when my cities had low public order. In recent forum investigations people have noticed that rebels appear more when the public order is low.

The army you talk about sounds like your either taking over Italy or your in south Italy, that's where the samnites are usually.

The toughest rebels I ever fought were when Carthago rebeled, the Carthaginians took back their capital with 3/4 a full stack

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Its not too strange to have Brigands appear with fairly low/mid class units. Quite a few times Hastaii has appeared in bands around the Roman area in my campaigns, although Equites and merceneries are much less common.

As you have pointed out though, when it comes to rebels they usually attack with simpler units such as Town Watch, Peasants or lower class archers and skirmishers.

I'm not sure if this is related in anyway, but such more powerful bands only have ever seemed to appear after the Marian reforms for me. Has anybody else seen such a trend?

The most odd rebel army (in a city) I ever fought consisted of Carthaginian Peasants, Militia and three units of Yutseb Elephants (an extremely powerful and large elephant unit which can normally only be activated by a cheat code). I won in the end with a combination of Legionary Cohorts and skirmisher Auxila. The cohorts were used primarily as a distraction for the riders to fire their arrows at, while the skirmishers were used to fire at the elephants with the aim of killing them.

[Genaral Julis]

The refroms have not happend yet.

[TruePraetorian]

The most odd rebel army (in a city) I ever fought consisted of Carthaginian Peasants, Militia and three units of Yutseb Elephants (an extremely powerful and large elephant unit which can normally only be activated by a cheat code). I won in the end with a combination of Legionary Cohorts and skirmisher Auxila. The cohorts were used primarily as a distraction for the riders to fire their arrows at, while the skirmishers were used to fire at the elephants with the aim of killing them.

That is rather odd...Also, I didn't know that those could be killed I've only used them once and got cheat-happy, making 20 for a grand CTD

[Barbarian]

I have met many types of rebel units. I could say, almost any unit, that is in the game. But what is interesting, I often meet armies with different types of gladiators. That makes fighting more interesting, because in close combat they can beat even roman legions.

Another thing. I play with the FOW turned off for the first time, and noticed a lonely settlement at the edge of the map, above Scythian lands. It is deeply in the forest, and only one narrow path leads to it. It is owned by rebels, named not brigands or bandits, but "Amazons"
Well, I had conquered it before, but always took it from another faction, I never saw it being owned by rebels. I am sure there are some awesome warriors in that settlement.
Maybe that's the place where Yutseb elephants come from?

By the way: Isn't it possible to get Yutseb elephants by accomplishing Senate missions? I think I got 2 units of them in version 1.0. Never had such prize in later versions. I also didn't try them in battle, they were a trophy in my capital. I don't like using cheats, so haven't seen them since that time.

[Caeser The III]

to me, its not that strange, its happenned to me a plenty of times

[Caius]

Another thing. I play with the FOW turned off for the first time, and noticed a lonely settlement at the edge of the map, above Scythian lands. It is deeply in the forest, and only one narrow path leads to it. It is owned by rebels, named not brigands or bandits, but "Amazons"
Well, I had conquered it before, but always took it from another faction, I never saw it being owned by rebels. I am sure there are some awesome warriors in that settlement.
Maybe that's the place where Yutseb elephants come from?

No, but Amazon Chariots come from there. A good and unique unit.

[mrdun]

yubtesb's as a rewad, sweeet!