Hot chicks in Antiquity?

[Slim_Ghost]

Given the conditions of the days past, would the women of the Antiquity be as beautiful, or more beautiful than today?

I was thinking, maybe if I go back in time I could get myself some hot Roxolani chicks with my horse (I assumed that fine-bred horses are like Porches to the nomads).

[Gaias]

The only thing that I am sure of about concepts of beauty in antiquity, is that a man knew that breasts came in one form... natural.

[PershsNhpios]

Your, 'chicks', I mourn, and your horse, I pity.

[Gaivs]

Yeh well, readi Ovids "on Facial treatment for ladies" or any number of these types of things haha. You will see that the wealthy women used alot of makeup and spent a lot of money on it. Poorer people would undoubtedly be uglier and dirtier etc, but if you were rich, im sure they would be able to compete with any computer enhanced "model" of today.

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I'd say depends on the geographical location. Some places seem to naturally have ugly women, while some (such as my country hehe ) have high concentration of good-looking women.

I assume you'd do better off in the North, at least

[Spearthrower]

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Really, the safest explanation aside from such cliches would be to say that beauty is a fashion. What is beautiful today was most definitely not beautiful in your parent's generation or grandparent's and so on. So multiply that by a factor of hundreds and you can see the answer is impossible to come by.

Just look at nude paintings from a century ago and look at all the blubber those beautiful women carried.... fat was most definitely sexy then - perhaps partly due to it indicating the higher status of the woman - she could afford to be fat and white.

Another good example is to look into the fattening farms of modern day Mauretania. Something like this article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3429903.stm just goes to show that beauty is hardly a universally agreed upon thing! I am sure Kate Moss would be far from a model there! ;)


A good classical example is Cleopatra who was known through the ancient world to be highly attractive to men, yet whose likeness found on coins leaves a lot to be desired by modern standards.

Add into that the concept of the beauty of the exotic. While many people find beauty in their own race, other's apples fall further from the tree.

When I first moved to Thailand, I was slightly awed by the sheer number of gorgeous women. A week later, I honestly couldn't decide if they were all beautiful or all ugly. Now, 5 years later, I meet about as many beautiful women here as I would in the UK. It's all a matter of personal perspective, so it's impossible to answer your question for everyone.

Basically though, I would say "yes".... there would have been hot chicks in antiquity, even if they weren't considered beautiful in their own time and location! ;)

[konny]

Given the conditions of the days past, would the women of the Antiquity be as beautiful, or more beautiful than today?

I doubt that people in Ancient times looked much different to modern people. Take someone from today Rome and dress him in tunica and send him back 2,000 years in times, and take an Ancient Roman and dress him in Jeans and t-shirt and place him in modern Rome - none of both will draw any attraction (as long as both keep their mouth shut).

[antisocialmunky]

Find a National Geographic about a piss poor rural area and you will get your answer.

[Vorian]

You should stick with rich 'chicks' from Greek or Roman cities, others would be too unrefined for a modern man's taste.

I like German women but with nice clothes, decent hair and having all their teeth and preferably with less muscles than me.

[TWFanatic]

Indeed the perception of beauty has changed since Antiquity. The perception of beauty has changed since 10 years ago. There is this video on metacafe showing a Playboy model from each year, 2007 down all the way to whenever it started. I probably shouldn't post it here, but it's interesting how in mere decades what was once considered beautiful and fashionable is now laughable. Especially the hair...those 60's hairstyles are ridiculous.

I also understand that it was considered beautiful to be fair skinned in most of us Greece (Sparta the notable exception) and Rome. Of course, it was mainly just the noble women who could afford to stay indoors all day and have people wait on them. Nowadays, it's considered (by many people at least) beautiful to be tan.

[Spearthrower]

I also understand that it was considered beautiful to be fair skinned in most of us Greece (Sparta the notable exception) and Rome. Of course, it was mainly just the noble women who could afford to stay indoors all day and have people wait on them. Nowadays, it's considered (by many people at least) beautiful to be tan.

Actually, in most of the world people still retain the concept that whiteness equates to beauty. Here in Asia for example, there is an endless bombardment of TV adverts for whitening cream and girls are obsessive about avoiding the sun.... in direct opposition to the tanning agents and sun-worshipping of the west!

As you said though, it all stems from the basic principle that peasants are forced to labour under the sun, and therefore get dark, while the nobility remains inside and is all but permanently shaded from the sun's rays, through veils and more complete dress, through curtains, parasols and carriages.

I think you hit the nail on the head with that Playboy example though.... beauty is not a fixed concept at all.... and all the people who assume their chosen preferences are universal are sorely mistaken!

[sgsandor]

Find a National Geographic about a piss poor rural area and you will get your answer.

Brilliant i almost pissed my pants when i read this!! way to Antisocial

[Quirinus]

I doubt that people in Ancient times looked much different to modern people. Take someone from today Rome and dress him in tunica and send him back 2,000 years in times, and take an Ancient Roman and dress him in Jeans and t-shirt and place him in modern Rome - none of both will draw any attraction (as long as both keep their mouth shut).

I disagree. Remember that when they were filming Master and Commander, they had to find Polish extras to play the sailors because modern Brits didn't look sufficiently like 17th-century (or was it the 18th?) Brits.

They also didn't have sugar to ruin their teeth, so I don't know if their teeth would be that bad.

Sweetmeats, pickled figs, sugared plums........

When I was younger I used to think "Man, Ancient Egyptian women must have been hot" until I realized they had all these problems, and as a bonus, also shaved their heads....

Haha, I used think that too.



Me, I never saw any sense in riding down routing Screeching Women when a different kind of lust could have been satisfied with them, but oh well. The models in the game don't look too appealing anyway.

[antisocialmunky]

You guys are forgetting about the polygamy part....

And naked Spartan chicks doing stretches...

[Justinian II]

Given the conditions of the days past, would the women of the Antiquity be as beautiful, or more beautiful than today?

I was thinking, maybe if I go back in time I could get myself some hot Roxolani chicks with my horse (I assumed that fine-bred horses are like Porches to the nomads).

I've always been quite fond of the Empress Theodora, though she's...arguably more medieval than ancient. She looks rather stunning IMO in that wall mosaic in Ravenna.

[marodeur]

I've always been quite fond of the Empress Theodora, though she's...arguably more medieval than ancient. She looks rather stunning IMO in that wall mosaic in Ravenna.

Do you mean this one?

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Th...ik_ravenna.jpg

[Wodeson]

Your semi-nomad hunter gathers generally had a good varied diet with plenty of vitamins and protein. They were generally more fit and healthy than your peasant farmers relying on a high carbohydrate diet, performing repetitive labour.

[Kολοσσός]

There were orgies in antiquity...something we miss a lot these days for a variety of reasons, one of the reasons being the stupid, idiotic, moronic, primitive teachings of the Catholic Church which has traditionally associated sexuality with sin. The result was a stigma that has persisted to the present day. A number of splendid ancient cultures such as the Japanese or the Hindus have never associated sexuality with sin and thus have avoided many of the troubles we the Westerners had to experience.

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There were orgies in antiquity...something we miss a lot these days for a variety of reasons

Dude, we still have orgies y'know
Of course, the abundance of horrible, disfiguring diseases tends to put a brake on it...

[Vorian]

Dude, we still have orgies y'know
Of course, the abundance of horrible, disfiguring diseases tends to put a brake on it...

Really? Does your girlfriend accept the idea? Cause I have yet to find one that likes threesomes

Orgies nowadays are like orgies in the roman times. For the rich.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Are you crazy? You can't take your girlfriend with you to your orgy. I would hate my girlfriend after the orgy, that's the same as cheating (doesn't matter that I would have cheated as well, I'm a man after all ). You need one (or more, depends on how much you can afford) for the heart, and for the *bleep* you can't have enough anyhow, you know.

[Vorian]

LOl, of course I wouldn't but I would really like it if she could *share* me with another girl if you know what I mean.

I think this discussion has started to border forum rules for offensive posts.

[Kολοσσός]

Unfortunately antique chicks had bad teef. This was because the way grain was milled into flour-using a couple of flat stones. Stone to stone friction produced lots of ambient dust from the stone which ended up in the flour and then the bread. A lifetime of eating that was like a lifetime of eating sandpaper-the abrasive damage to the teef was significant resulting in enamel loss and all kinds of painful abscesses. In the absence of modern dental hygiene the smell of your breath was quite important in antiquity. Obviously a majority of people had extremely bad breath due to rotten teeth. Megas Alexandros was described as having a pleasant breath odor-it was actually noted in the biographies of the conqueror.

[Ibrahim]

Wow dude! those teeth are terrible!
What Museum is this from? And when and where did she live, and what age?

[Kολοσσός]

Wow dude! those teeth are terrible!
What Museum is this from? And when and where did she live, and what age?

I don't know if the skull is ancient and in fact I have no idea where it's from. I just posted the picture to make my post more dramatic.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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C'mon guys! You can do better.

In order to turn this into an ancient babe thread, I'm opening the way with the usual stuff:


Cleo


Arsinoe III


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[Wolfman]

Cleopatra. Yick! When I finally discovered what she really looked like i was dissapointed. She's not the type of Egyptian babe i would date at all. Arsinoe doesn't look to bad to me. She Would be someone I would date.

[pirates_say_arrgg]

You know they probably didn't shave, right?

[TWFanatic]

The ancients likely had far less cavities than us because of their diet. Speaking from experience, I hardly ever brushed my teeth as a kid (every other day or so) and yet never got a cavity. This is because I hardly ever ate candy or other sweets, my parents simply didn't keep it in the house. To this day I drink my coffee black and don't eat dessert.

I know it sounds repulsing, but for some reason my breath never turns sour unless I eat something really nasty, so I never felt the need. Until I went on the garlic diet that is--I didn't actually lose weight on that one, but I did look thinner from a distance.

As for my teeth, they seem to never turn yellow.

Anyway, great thread guys. Maybe we should pin this and re-title it, "The EB Babe Thread."

[konny]

You know they probably didn't shave, right?

Men and women in Ancient Rome did use wax excessivily; so you wouldn't find a single hair more on their body than on modern people.