Elephants

[Barbarian]

I think we can have balance without having clone armies of boring identical units.

Probably, but always, when one unit is a bit better that the other, people yell "Imbalance!".

The only solution is have different unit stats and cost for campaign and and MP.

For MP: just make all armies similar, like in the chess. Only their looks will be different. Will be bloody fun.

[anders]

whats the matter wolf, you already have a perfectly well balanced tactical battle game in Shogun, in which you and the other MP veterans can test your supreme skills against one and other, and maybe even Medieval I is good enough for your refined taste, no need to complain over the new games not being perfect for your purpouse then?

btw, I thought the multiplayer community observed gentlemens agreements and refrained from using unbalanced units in a game-destroyig degree?


Im not crazy about elephants and other uber units myself, but since the SP game is trying to be some sort of historical recreation, units that were actually used in the period have a place in the game. and, if the premise is some kind of historical recreation, all units and factions cant or wont be balanced. the game is somewhere between simulation and abstract gameplay, and if some historical unit were cheaper, better, and far superior to a given other, the game should reflect that.

I think most of us whos played since STW or MTW agree those were better games gameplaywise, but thats no reason we and newcomers shouldnt be allowed to enjoy the new games, without being told were RTS-crazy 14 year olds who doesnt know what "armor-piercing" means.

Might I also suggest chess, if yoyre looking for a pure battle of the minds with fully balanced armies.