They banned youtube in Turkey

[Mete Han]

Some defense attorney somehow managed to get youtube banned in Turkey. The reason is because Ataturk is being attacked. How can he be so stupid? everybody attacks each other on youtube. Though this is not the first time youtube was banned in Turkey and in a matter of days we will have access again. what the hell are they thinking!?!?!

[Mouzafphaerre]

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What bothers me is workarounds of the bans that I know of aren't working anymore. (Bypassing the root DNS by Treewalk...)
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[Mouzafphaerre]

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Found the solution.
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[Mete Han]

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Found the solution.
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as your name says you are a really muzaffer guy.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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as your name says you are a really muzaffer guy.

While I'll keep my opinions for the person in question to myself (suffice to say that they're not in concordance with the popular one), I have to tell you about the fact that he has a cult, which is virtually almost a state religion. He is protected by law (act #5816 if you wish to check) literally from insult but practically you can't but praise him or you're powned.

The idiotic part with this matter lies in the glorious state, being unable to do anything about Youtube itself, bans its citizens from accesing the site. "There's a good kid! You won't go to that nasty place will you! "
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[Mete Han]

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While I'll keep my opinions for the person in question to myself (suffice to say that they're not in concordance with the popular one), I have to tell you about the fact that he has a cult, which is virtually almost a state religion. He is protected by law (act #5816 if you wish to check) literally from insult but practically you can't but praise him or you're powned.

The idiotic part with this matter lies in the glorious state, being unable to do anything about Youtube itself, bans its citizens from accesing the site. "There's a good kid! You won't go to that nasty place will you! "
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Of course he is protected by law because as I said Ataturk is a major intitution and also is one ofthe foundations of the regime.

Well you cannot ban people fro youtube, they'll get another id and might log on from somewhere else. Noone should be banned from the internet.

[Strike For The South]

Why is so much emphasis placed on a man?

[Ayachuco]

Isn't he that guy who Westernized Turkey??? Or am I thinking about somebody else?
Sorry for my lack of knowledge of Turkey...I never really payed much attention to it in my studies or readings.

[Geoffrey S]

Same way Founding Fathers were, and possibly still are sacred in the US for quite a while.

[PershsNhpios]

You must remember that Turkey, though Westernized as much as it shall ever be, is a nation successive of an Empire that had loyal, unquestioning soldiery, a populace completely dependent upon the thoughts and words of their leader, who allowed even the structure of their religion to be altered by the Sultan, and by the Young Turks, of which Jemal Pasha, or later, Kemal Ataturk, (Whom I did not realise still lived), and though the Turks housed as many bright and radiant minds as any culture,
they very much defined any breed of cattle in their ignorance of the international world, and concentration on simple lives and tasks alone.
They were very content to either live simply within their community, or be recruited into military service - in which they served a brutal sentence.

From what I can see, and to quote T.E. Lawrence, "The American lifestyle showed the encouragement of free speech, this animated the Balkan nations - the American schools unwittingly taught revolution to the Eastern world", (This is not exact - see Seven Pillars of Wisdom), so the Albanians, Armenians, Georgians, Arabs, Egyptians, Judeans, Persians, Greeks, Macedonians and Belo-Russians all rebelled in a very short period of time, all successfully, and during each nation's rebellion they became Westernized through their new beliefs.
However, the Turks could not rebel from themselves, and so change was, and still is rather difficult for their culture.

This is unless there be a man of the nation himself here to speak, against what I have said, and if he would then I would withdraw most things written as tainted.

[KukriKhan]

Here's the BBC's report: Link.

Excerpt:

...According to Turkish media, there has been a "virtual war" between Greek and Turkish users of the site, with both sides posting insulting videos.

The clip prompting the ban reportedly dubbed Ataturk and Turks homosexuals...

[Papewaio]

Ataturk is quite well known in Australia... for pretty obvious reasons.

Highly respected and the strange thing is that Melbourne has probably the highest population of Greeks in a single city outside of Greece... but we have very little Turkish vs Greek issues... except at football (soccer) and tennis events.

[CrossLOPER]

...According to Turkish media, there has been a "virtual war" between Greek and Turkish users of the site, with both sides posting insulting videos.

Yeah, I've noticed this. I was looking at a M2TW battle that involved Turks and Byzantines and there were some people, presumambly Greeks and Turks, engaging in a flame war.

[Mete Han]

Why is so much emphasis placed on a man?

He is not a man anymore, his name stands for an institution. When Ataturk is mentioned it brings up the ideas of secularism and modernization to people's minds. So in Turkey when Ataturk is attacked actually it is secularism and modernization movement that is being attacked. When the Turkish independence war was over the assembly wanted him to become the next caliph and the next sultan but Mustafa Kemal rejected this and started over-night revolutions. However even today there are many people in Turkey who couldn't internalize the revolutions and they still want Sheriat or a kind of an Islamic state. The funny thing is the Western Powers want Turkey to be an Islamic state as well, I wonder why? The current prime minister and his party are well known Ataturk and Secularism enemies and they got 47 per cent of votes in the last election. Can you actually believe that people may want to switch their lives for a more totalitarian and irrational regime? I sometimes think that this is because people are so poor in Turkey but then I realize that even rich some people support this Islamic thing, you know. Of course when there is an irrational state of things it is easier to exploit poor people.

And of course there is this tradition for Greeks to attack Ataturk. I really do not understand why they do that. But my guess is with the eighties but actually starting from seventies both Turkey and Greece were literally forced to embrace more conservative policies (right wing) in order to contain Soviet
expansion. These policies were not counter checked and so the two nations became enemies. Well I am not sure about the Greek case but in Turkey this is especially true. The US supported the coup in turkey in 1980 and after that the policies and the constitution became significantly rightist. I hope some Greek friends can help us understand the reasons for bashing Ataturk.

And finally I suspect that the attorney actually issued such a complaint in order to get some promotion or something. I mean censoring things does not solve issues for example the Armenian problem was not discussed in Turkey until some major powers started to accept the claim that there had been a genocide. For years Turkey could not produce counter arguments about it for it was not discussed.

[doc_bean]

The funny thing is the Western Powers want Turkey to be an Islamic state as well, I wonder why?

Because most people are idiots, western politicians especially.