Goidilic Units

**Redmeth** · 01-24-2008, 09:14

For 1.0all the names of Goidilic units were changed, Vellinica, Ordmalica, Dubosaverlacica and so on... get your facts right...

**Anthony III** · 01-25-2008, 02:26

Originally Posted by Redmeth

For 1.0all the names of Goidilic units were changed, Vellinica, Ordmalica, Dubosaverlacica and so on... get your facts right...

I think my facts are right, there were Goidilic units in EB 1.0?
I'm questioning if these will be removed and replaced with a more accurate depiction of the Hibernia?

Originally Posted by paullus

he's asking if there's going to be an addressing of Goidilic names in EBII, so it fits here....and yes, name changes have already been made in internal planning.

Thank you. That is a good step.

**Cronos Impera** · 01-25-2008, 16:12

-to be deleted by mods- Wrong forum.

**Anthony III** · 01-26-2008, 05:16

Originally Posted by Cronos Impera

-to be deleted by mods- Wrong forum.

Sorry. Why wrong forum? I'm asking about EB II. Is there another EB II forum I should be posting in?

**Admetos** · 01-26-2008, 20:33

I think he means that he posted in the wrong forum and he wants his post to be deleted by a mod.

**Copperknickers** · 01-27-2008, 14:29

I don't understand. Is it just the names of the units that are wrong, or did the big hooded madmen in EB never actually exist? Have EB fixed them in 1.0?

Are the EB team trying to cover something up because this all looks very strange to me.

**Taliferno** · 01-27-2008, 22:48

Originally Posted by Copperknickers

I don't understand. Is it just the names of the units that are wrong, or did the big hooded madmen in EB never actually exist? Have EB fixed them in 1.0?

Are the EB team trying to cover something up because this all looks very strange to me.

Some of the units are alright with a few changes. Others draw to heavily on the myths of the Irish early christian and medieval eras.

The Iron Age Irish almost certainly did not refer to themselves as goidils.

There is also no archaeological evidence for an invasion from spain or any where else during the Irish Iron Age (roughly 300bc-300ad). Most (well, 99.9% really) modern archaeologists and historians regard the Irish mythological texts as fantasy and propaganda by the Irish early Christians to try and tie themselves to the various bible stories and the works of roman scholars.

For example, the Tain is probably an ancient Irish myth, but is adapted by mounting the heroes on chariots in imitation of the Greek Heroes of the Trojan wars (no evidence that the chariot was used in battle in Iron Age Ireland, but that it was a civilian/ceremonial vehicle-only a part of a true battle chariot like those in Britain has been found, and that piece was imported from Scotland/North England. Calvary seems to have been more common but whether this was "true cavalry" or mounted infantry is another matter) and arms them with Viking era swords and spears.

So, basically the Irish monks didn't really have a clue as to what their ancestors actually looked like so based them on the warriors of their own time period that they were familiar with.