Can't remove banners from the strat map!!!!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Now .. I'm changing the Eastern Roman Empire in to a small eastern faction ..
I copied partian tgas and other banners (as far as I can remember) but on the strat map (also battle map) they still use the ERE banners!!

[Makanyane]

If you're just trying to use the same banner as an existing faction for the campaign map you need to change descr_sm_factions.txt line

standard_index

so its same number as faction you want to use. Colour of the background you change by changing the primary_colour line for them in same file.

The big battlemap banners are referenced in descr_banners.txt so you could just change the one it refers to in there - that or overwrite the empire_east tga.dds with the one you want.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

If you're just trying to use the same banner as an existing faction for the campaign map you need to change descr_sm_factions.txt line

so its same number as faction you want to use. Colour of the background you change by changing the primary_colour line for them in same file.

The big battlemap banners are referenced in descr_banners.txt so you could just change the one it refers to in there - that or overwrite the empire_east tga.dds with the one you want.

Now ... the thing with the battlemap banners is solved but the campaign map banners still look like ERE original banners and not like the parthian banners as I want them to look like ..

How can I change them??

So .. please help again!!!

[Makanyane]

are you sure you changed the standard_index value in sm_factions?
I'm sure it's that which selects it.

The actual symbols for the campaign map banners in your screen shot are in data/banners on the symbols_.tga.dds's - you need the nvidia plug-in on Photoshop or Gimp or similar to view them. The index value starts counting at first top left corner of the first symbols file and that has four symbols on it, so values 0,1,2 & 3 are on first file, 4,5,6 & 7 on next etc.... but making it same as existing faction you want to use in sm_factions should work without worrying about that.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This is how my descr_sm_factions.txt ERE section looks like

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;15;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
faction empire_east
culture eastern
symbol models_strat/symbol_parthia.CAS
rebel_symbol models_strat/symbol_eastern_rebel.CAS
primary_colour red 168, green 62, blue 154
secondary_colour red 168, green 62, blue 154
loading_logo loading_screen/symbols/symbol128_parthia.tga
standard_index 1
logo_index 24 ; Index into strat3.rsd
small_logo_index 244 ; Index into shared.rsd
triumph_value 5
intro_movie
victory_movie fmv/victory/sassanids_win.wmv
defeat_movie fmv/lose/parthia_eliminated.wmv
death_movie fmv/lose/parthia_eliminated.wmv
custom_battle_availability yes
can_sap yes
prefers_naval_invasions no

What does this means "Index into strat3.rsd" ???
No mather what I do I can't get the camp map banners look like partian ones from rtw ...

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This is how it looks like now ..


What am I doing wrong here????

[Makanyane]

GAH, sorry, sorry, sorry, just realised you are trying to use logos from RTW faction in BI - I'd missed that part first time around.

You will need to edit the symbols dds file in bi/data/banners, looks like you've had a go at that on last screen shot, but maybe are having trouble with the alpha channel (or lack of it)? What image editing program are you using?

I just tried transfering logo in photoshop http://files.filefront.com/symbols9t.../fileinfo.html
try that and see if it works, though you might be able to make better job of it than me....


Index into strat3.rsd"
determines where it looks for location of the little round logo's on
bi/data/ui/interface/roman/stratpage_02.tga
other value Index into shared.rsd is where it looks on
bi/data/ui/interface/roman/sharedpage_01.tga

Don't try changing the location values of those as it won't look up the RTW file, just do a copy and paste edit of the Parthia symbol from the RTW equivalent pages over the empire_east symbol on the BI pages. You'll need an image editing program that can save tga's as 32 bit to avoid losing the alpha channel when you do that. You'll need to do that for each cultures interface files. If you get stuck on that yell and I'll do them for you, seeing as I've been confusing you in earlier posts

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I do not have photoshop unfortunately so I really can't change those files:
bi/data/ui/interface/roman/sharedpage_01.tga
bi/data/ui/interface/roman/stratpage_02.tga

I would be very grateful if you could do this..

So far I've changed .tga files like this: open them with Irfanview and convert them to .bmp .. then open those .bmp files and change what I want .. after that I open those .bmp files with Irfanview again ang convert them back to .tgas

This worked fine with some other .tga files but with those sharedpage_01.tga and stratpage_02.tga I got stucked

[Ibn-Khaldun]

If it's not much to asked .. is it possible to replace the Western Roman Empire symbol in those 2 files with the julii symbols from RTW and transfer the julii logo to the .dds file???

I would be very very grateful!!

[Squid]

Download Gimp, its a free image editing program that will allow you edit dds files with the nvida plugin.

[Makanyane]

Download Gimp, its a free image editing program that will allow you edit dds files with the nvida plugin.

Yeah I was going to say that next... you should be able to do most TW modding things with GIMP, that you can with Photoshop, it is free which is great advantage - but I found it slightly harder to get the hang of (never did entirely).

Only because I was feeling guilty about confusing things before (its not normal service) http://files.filefront.com/symbol+ch.../fileinfo.html
for the changed UI and symbols.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Downloaded gimp and I will have a look at this as soon as I going to get better from the flue ...

And THANK YOU Makanyane for those files

I would give you a hug if I wouldn't be ill

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Just one thing more ..
dumb as I am I have forgat what file excaxtly I have to change to get the battlemap captain banner not to look like Western Roman Empire and look like Julii banner

[Makanyane]

look in data/ui/captain_banners

there are card and portrait versions and they need to use the faction name like the existing ones.


Doing this always confuses me as well, there's bits of faction logo in so many different places, I always manage to forget / not find at least one....

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Thnx again ... Everything is looking like it should

Hopefuly I'm much smarter now

Why I ever thought that creating my own mod could be easy