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    Default To inherit or not, that is the question...

    Okay, well it is my question of the moment...

    The following transpired in my latest crack at my current Serbian campaign...

    We are just into the High period, Serbia is looking pretty strong both economically and militarily. I have a nice grouping of provinces, all looks reasonably well.

    To the south, Sicily have conquered all of Africa, and are steadily pushing the Byz into oblivion, controlling Nice, Rum, Antioch, Edessa, and almost all province south of antioch/Edessa.

    In the North, the Danes had painted almost all of the map white, but the Lithuanians have launched a comeback and now control the northeast and have pushed the Danes back to Volhynia and Levidea.

    In the west, the Castille-Leonese control all of Iberia, and most of what will become modern day France. All of these powers have enormous numbers of troops charging all over the map.

    Anyway, in 1216, the Castille-Leonese King offers the hand of his daughter Catherine to my Tsar, Stafan I. Stafan accepts and they are wed.

    Seven years later, the Castille-Leonese King turns up his little Spanish toes, and lo and behold Algarve, Cordoba, Portucale, Leon, Castille, Granada, Valencia, Murcia, Aragon, Navarre, Tripoli, and Savoy all become Serbian states, along with their massive garrisons of troops!

    Now I don't like to look gift horses in their mouths, but I am concerned that these events that have resulted in an almost tripling of my conquered territories have thrown the game a touch out of balance....

    So - before I write it up - I have decided to open this question.

    Do I (a) accept the fortunate hand that fate has dealt me and push on; or
    (b) go back to my last "SAVE" point and see what transpires.

    Over to you, my fellow guild members.

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    Take the territories. You'd probably want to try and take them at soem stage anyways and this way you get them without loss. Those are some good teritories as well. Iron rich and wealthy, and come with Garrisons so not too much trouble with unhappyness.

    Have a crack, I've never inhereted a teritory, let alone an empire!

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    Dang...I've never inherited a single territory. I'd take it, if for no reason other than to say that I've done it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikhaan
    Dang...I've never inherited a single territory. I'd take it, if for no reason other than to say that I've done it.
    Exactly what I'd do! I didn't even realise that this actually happened!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikhaan
    Dang...I've never inherited a single territory. I'd take it, if for no reason other than to say that I've done it.
    Agreed. It has never happened to me before either so I say take it just because you can.

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    Take them. It sounds like there are still enough powerful Empires left to deal with who still make the game interesting.

    Like everyone else; this has never happened to me as yet... Did it just pop up and say, like, these are now yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamff
    Okay, well it is my question of the moment...

    The following transpired in my latest crack at my current Serbian campaign...

    We are just into the High period, Serbia is looking pretty strong both economically and militarily. I have a nice grouping of provinces, all looks reasonably well.

    To the south, Sicily have conquered all of Africa, and are steadily pushing the Byz into oblivion, controlling Nice, Rum, Antioch, Edessa, and almost all province south of antioch/Edessa.

    In the North, the Danes had painted almost all of the map white, but the Lithuanians have launched a comeback and now control the northeast and have pushed the Danes back to Volhynia and Levidea.

    In the west, the Castille-Leonese control all of Iberia, and most of what will become modern day France. All of these powers have enormous numbers of troops charging all over the map.

    Anyway, in 1216, the Castille-Leonese King offers the hand of his daughter Catherine to my Tsar, Stafan I. Stafan accepts and they are wed.

    Seven years later, the Castille-Leonese King turns up his little Spanish toes, and lo and behold Algarve, Cordoba, Portucale, Leon, Castille, Granada, Valencia, Murcia, Aragon, Navarre, Tripoli, and Savoy all become Serbian states, along with their massive garrisons of troops!

    Now I don't like to look gift horses in their mouths, but I am concerned that these events that have resulted in an almost tripling of my conquered territories have thrown the game a touch out of balance....

    So - before I write it up - I have decided to open this question.

    Do I (a) accept the fortunate hand that fate has dealt me and push on; or
    (b) go back to my last "SAVE" point and see what transpires.

    Over to you, my fellow guild members.
    A very rare occurance. Out of interest how was your taxation set when you inherited the provinces? As to what you should do, well that's up to you. I'd say that it could make for a very interesting game if you continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caravel
    A very rare occurance. Out of interest how was your taxation set when you inherited the provinces? As to what you should do, well that's up to you. I'd say that it could make for a very interesting game if you continue.

    Taxation was at "Normal" for almost all of my existing provinces, and "High" for Venice and Constantinople. I had my economy humming along, treasury is full of florins, so I had no need to upset the populace by overburdening them with taxes....

    Quote Originally Posted by ironsword
    Like everyone else; this has never happened to me as yet... Did it just pop up and say, like, these are now yours?
    I have also never seen it happen before, although I had read of it happening. I got the message about the Spanish King dying, and will confess that I dismissed it without reading it, so I do not know whether there was anything different in the message this time...the first I knew of it was that the entire Iberian peninsula suddenly turned dark blue!
    Last edited by bamff; 01-30-2008 at 00:19.

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    Bamff, I don't s'pose that we might be seeing this in the Pics and History thread, will we? I'd love to see it, if possible.
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    Default Re: To inherit or not, that is the question...

    No worries, kamikhaan - I certainly will do. I just wanted to decide which way I was going to jump before writing it up.

    Initially I was torn - on the one hand, it was a complete novelty that I had not encountered before. As a result, I did not want to dismiss it out of hand. Also, up until reaching "high", I had to make do with armoured spears as my main spear wall unit. Now I can train voynuk bladesmen and halberdiers, but I still view these two more as the flanking killer units...The Castile-Leonese seem to have been pre-occupied with chiv sergeants, and have gifted me a great many of these units.

    On the other hand, it felt a bit like a "cheat" to suddenly score such a large chunk of territory...

    I suppose there is potentially an issue with the ongoing loyalty of the various Castile-Leonese generals. They all seem extremely loyal at present, but they aren't Serbian, are they? So I suppose the loyalty question, allied to my inability to train replacement/reinforcement units may keep it interesting...and as somebody else noted, Sicily, the Danes, and Lithuania are all still very strong....and we all know who is coming to the party in just a few short years....hmmm...come to think of it, those Spaniards may get to prove their loyalty in blood when the horde arrives....

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    Default Re: To inherit or not, that is the question...

    Hmm, you know, I've heard before that your taxes need to be relatively low(ie-not 'very high') to have any chance for this. Which might explain why I've never had it happen, on account of the fact that I have a rather high tendency to break my peasant's backs, regardless of my current financial standing, so long as they remain sufficiently loyal.
    It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.

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