Help Needed

[The Wandering Scholar]

Hi there, i'm needing a bit of help finding out where these quotes come from:

"today is a good day (but a better one to live)"

"Roma Invicta"

"It is a sweet and honourable thing to die for one's country"

"we shall fight the battle in the shade" (battle of the 300 with Leonidas)

Thanks a lot.

[zooeyglass]

"It is a sweet and honourable thing to die for one's country"

dulce et decorum est pro patria mori

horace. odes. III.2

maybe not III.2. but i think so.

oh, and of course, quoted in wilfred owen.

[The Wandering Scholar]

Was Horace Roman or greek? thanks zoo

[anubis88]

Dude, just type this quotes into google and find out for yourself.
It's not too hard of a feat

[The Wandering Scholar]

I am. Although I keep falling short with the "today is a good day to die" especially. I just find lots of die hard christian sites quote it a lot but do not say where it is from.

Roma Invicta = Undefeated Rome (inscribed on the Statue of Rome. It was an inspirational motto used until the Fall of Rome in 476AD)

[The Wandering Scholar]

Was it someone called Eugines who said the imortal line: "So much the better: we shall fight in the shade"?

[Chris1959]

Today is a good day to die!
Is I believe a native American saying. Souix or Cheyenne?
Could be apochrophyl though and probably been used in all cultures

[The Wandering Scholar]

Possibly could be from many cultures, Little John used it in the Robin Hood series.

[zooeyglass]

"today is a good day (but a better one to live)"

"Roma Invicta"

"we shall fight the battle in the shade" (battle of the 300 with Leonidas)

the 300 stuff i would guess is mainly in Herodotus - he was prone to have a few pithy sayings here and there, so no doubt he's smacked that in someone....hence Frank Miller (who credits Herodotus) putting it in his film.

Horace was a Roman. Perhaps the best Roman golden age poet...unless people want to argue it was vergil or ovid.....