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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    Because present day Albania is where the Illyrians fled to after having their territories being taken over by mostly Slavic invaders, much later than EB timeline.
    So those Albanians saying Alexandros III was Albanian came never even near the truth?
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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    There was a lot of inter-marrying among the Royal houses, so there was deffinitely Illyrian blood in Alexander III, as well as Thraikian. Imagine Victorian like marrying among the Royal houses of the time.

    However, his father was Phillipos B of the Temenids dynasty of Makedonia with Herakles as a divine ancestor, his mother Olympias from the Aiakides dynasty of Epeiros with Neoptolemos, son of Achilles as a divine ancestor. Both were Greeks.

    Alexandros III of Makedonia was educated by Aristoteles, in my opinion the single best philosopher/scientist that Hellenism produced. One of his works "of Geography" translated into Latin in 1430's has this to say... "Earth is a small place, and it is entirely possible that one can sail around it and can reach the point of origin". Christopher Colombus must have read that. Alexandros III did too.

    Alexandros III was Greek, of both greek parents, greek ancestry, greek speaking, and brought greek thought on the whole of the world. His genious made Hellenistic world possible.

    Albanians of today and FyroMacedonians of today can claim Alexandros all they want. They are simply wrong. I would say


    stinking liars,



    , but that is for any thinking person to decide.


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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    Well, finding Epirus is easy. You just look for the gap in Philip II's empire. As to who can claim ownership of Alexander III, well no one can. He doesn't seem to have any decendants.

    Maybe Egypt, given that they have Alexandria.
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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
    He doesn't seem to have any decendants.

    That bastard Cassander

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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
    Well, finding Epirus is easy. You just look for the gap in Philip II's empire. As to who can claim ownership of Alexander III, well no one can. He doesn't seem to have any decendants.

    Maybe Egypt, given that they have Alexandria.
    Funny you should say that. An afghan working in the office of a friend of mine has absolutely no qualms about it. Alexandros was greek, his people lived in Afghanistan for centuries, and his memory is very much alive there. He did find it insulting, however, when the Slavs in our Northern borders claimed him and asked why didn't Greek government did something about it.

    Tell you what, Alexandros belongs to the Afghanis, their Iskandar, given that they have at least 5 Alexandreias on their soil.

    One can be shown below, along with probable locations of IndoGreek cities founded after his time.


    Personally, I would have no problem whatsoever if an Afghani were to come forth and claim Alexandros, as his wife was Afghan, and his kid had he lived would be half Afghan much like Antiochos I (son of Seleukos I) was.

    The Slavic population of what is now called FYROMacedonia, however has absolutely NO RELATION WHATSOEVERto Megas Alexandros, nor his people. Back when they entered the area at 7th century CE they were Bulgars. Then they were Vardars,


    (a Yugoslavian stamp of 1939 depicting their country, called Vardarska). And then, when Tito the Communist leader took over, they became "Macedonia" in order to claim the spoils of the civil war (aka Greek Makedonia) that was going on between Greek government and communist guerillas.

    U.S. is now helping to further the cause of Tito's failed gambit. I really don't understand how US is ACTIVELY promoting a failed communist cause. Why don't they help Castro family cement its authority, too?


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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    They used to, remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by keravnos
    U.S. is now helping to further the cause of Tito's failed gambit. I really don't understand how US is ACTIVELY promoting a failed communist cause. Why don't they help Castro family cement its authority, too?

    I wouldn't put it past them.

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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    Castro had his chance... Of he would have been a capitalist dictator he would still be in power! Oh wait....

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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    I think the illyrians were mostly "bolossed" by the epirotes
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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    Quote Originally Posted by keravnos
    a Yugoslavian stamp of 1939 depicting their country, called Vardarska.
    In Aromanian, the languages Bulgarian and Macedonian have similar forms to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by keravnos
    U.S. is now helping to further the cause of Tito's failed gambit. I really don't understand how US is ACTIVELY promoting a failed communist cause.
    Don't you know conflict is profitable?

    Anyway there is no way to effectively represent Illyria while still keeping the game balanced.

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    Default Re: Why Epirus instead of Illyria?

    Quote Originally Posted by keravnos
    Alexandros III of Makedonia was educated by Aristoteles, in my opinion the single best philosopher/scientist that Hellenism produced. One of his works "of Geography" translated into Latin in 1430's has this to say... "Earth is a small place, and it is entirely possible that one can sail around it and can reach the point of origin". Christopher Colombus must have read that. Alexandros III did too.
    Columbus took the smallest possible assessment of the size of the Earth, in total contradiction to Eratosthenes and most others. He was a crank who got lucky.
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