1200 BC Mod-WIP/proposal

[Horton III]

Hi All,

Just a mod I've started work on, and may move up to full-scale team recruitment and production/promotion if there is any interest.

What I have started work on is a mod taking place at 1200 BC give or take. This will include a list of various factions, which I'll list later.

The mod will be based on the Trojan Wars, Ancient Egypt's Pharaohs, Babylonia, and the biblical wars of the Old Testament as well.

Due to the time period, it will allow for a ton of artistic license, and I am already working on a large campaign map as well (roughly 2.5 times the size of the original campaign map in RTW) that covers from Italy to modern day Iran.

The game will of course have to take on a massive overhaul to make it totally awesome-new temples, new tech trees, and new units.


Faction List:
-Trojans
-Egyptians
-Greek Cities (may be more than one faction)
-Babylon
-Persia
-Hittites
-Philistines
-Phoenicians
-Atlantis
-Judea
-Israel (the mod will take place at the onset of the split kingdoms, more details to come)
-Assyrians

This is a list of 12, and with Greece split 14 or so, factions to start with that gives us room for 7 more. My idea is to make as many 'rebel' type factions spread around, as the world was by no means an organized place in this time.

The mod will based on either RTW or BI-I don't know yet. I would like to use the BI system of loyalty and religion if possible, but I've never modded BI, only RTW.

If in case the mod is accepted with interest, it will need modelers, skinners, and scripters, etc...

[Raz]

Yes, soon my Persian empire will dominate all of Persia to Italy. Mwhaha.
I just hope I don't suffer from a 300 moment.

Well, about the mod, it's got a nice set and a all. What about some features that it'll include? Also, BI is awfully similar to RTW in terms of mechanics etc. but not as many people have BI as they do RTW. Sure, I went to go get BI as soon as The Crusades announced it would take advantage of the BI engine, but that's me.

I'd help with unit creation, unit descriptions etc. (Most text-base work), but dear me, looks like I've got enough on my plate already with my mod for MTW:VI. *Sighs*

[Ossie The Great]

Hi
i started a mod simular to this here, my aim is to put more work in to it once a finshed narnia total war , anyway i was wondering if you wanted to join up as i am a modeler and skinner and could help if we joined up. , and you are probabbly a better coder than me.

[Horton III]

Yeah that's a good idea. I can't start work on anything right away-I have another mod in progress-but I am now working on the settlements, trying to find a good campaign map (I have started one, but I'm new to it and if there's one that will work already out there...) and I've got a modswitch ready for use for this mod as well. Basically, methinks we will need total ITEM and CAS overhauls, and we should ask the Troy: Total War team if we could use a few of their Trojan models.

Basically I am no modeler-I have gmax, so I cannot export my .CAS files once they are edited. I have not tried to use it with ITEM files.

For the strat, and indeed the battle map, we will need:

-Temple of Ba'al
-Great Temple of Jerusalem (it's own tree could include the Ark of the Covenant, the Tabernacle, and then the Temple, since there's no shrine-temple-large-etc, etc...)
-New models for the city buildings of the various cultures


Basically my impression of this era is that almost all the civilization of the west gathered around the 'Great Sea,' and so the mod will be perfect for the time period where everyone is trying to establish a firm hold on just living-then civilizing their area-then building an empire. What better era for Total War then an era when an entire civilization's destruction could rely on the fall of one city?!

[Athkara]

Hi, I just stumbled across this and it looks very interesting. I happen to be taking a class on the ancient history of Iran this quarter, and though it's mainly about the Achaemenids, we went over this period a bit. Your faction list looks good so far, but I would suggest adding the kingdom of Elam (centered around the cities of Anshan and Susa) and maybe the Aramaeans.

Here's a little info from one of our text books, The Heritage of Persia, by Richard N. Frye :

The Elamaites:

"Most of the political history of Elam must have been concerned with the occupation of conquest of large areas of Persia on the plateau, and the constant raids westwards against the inhabitants of Mesopotamia. About 1175 BC a king of Elam, Shutruk-Nakhunte, captured the great and ancient city of Babylon carrying back to Susa his capitol great booty, among which was a diorite stone engraved with Hammurabi's law code, excavated by the French in 1901. Following an Elamite tradition, statues of the deities of various cities conquered by the Elamites, such as Marduk of Babylon and Nana, goddess of Uruk, were brought to Susa where the patron deity of the city, Inshushinak, held sway."

The Aramaeans:

"All around the 'Fertile Crescent' from the twelth century BC Aramaic-speaking nomads infiltrated and took power, forming small principalities, perhaps the foremost one of which in Syria was the territory of Damascus. In the Old Testement we read of the struggles of David and Solomon against the Aramaeans. In Mesopotamia the Assyrian annals mention that the Aramaeans were well ensconced here as they were on the other side of the Syrian desert. Their movement into the 'Fertile Crescent' resembles that later of the Arab tribes before Islam into the same territory."

[Horton III]

Thanks Athkara-that's great info and your signature is great. I'll be sure and use it.

I was planning on having several 'free' factions included, so that various nomadic and barbarian civilizations are represented, but that will all have to fall into place. Right now Os decided to pursue other mods, and so I'm doing the project on my own. If anyone wants to join in... let me know!

[antiochus epiphanes]

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Imperium...p?showforum=63

use what you want

[Ossie The Great]

Hi
Ok, i am back again and will start on the models as soon as i can, i will post some pics soon.

Also have u thought up any unit lists yet.

[macsen rufus]

Good luck with the project, Horton - I can't offer any assistance as my milieu is MTW, not RTW, but I do have a huge list of names that you can use if you like (including over 500 Egyptian ones, plus Greek, Hittite, Aramaean, Hebrew, Berber for instance). PM your email and I can send it to you

[Horton III]

Thanks for the text file Rufus, it will be very helpful.

I will start on a unit list for all the various factions. Any input would be welcome from anyone on anything with regards to the mod, so if you're debating posting here, go for it.

Right now, before anyone posts a "When will this be released" question, (they seem to pervade at least the twcenter's mod forums), note that I am planning a wedding and finishing up another mod before I can start in total earnest on this one. So from now till May 31 I will be working with Ossie on units, fiddling with the campaign map and descr_strat.txt, (which I really don't like lol) getting some of the new units in-game and so on.

[Ossie The Great]

Ok, i have nearly finshed the hittite , will post pics soon.

Also i could provide info for the Isralites, and Judea, as i have been studying them pratically all my life so know quite a lot about them :)