A Very Admirable Admiral

**Quirinus** · 02-01-2008, 14:41

Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites

Sometime though, my best admirals have ended up getting demoted to a normal sailor when I've merged them with a stack which was lead by a worse admiral. This "bug" prevents them from using their entire potential, stopping them from becoming even better than they already are.

Really? In my experience, merging fleets is highly idiosyncratic-- sometimes, admirals will just refuse to hand over their ship(s) even to a superior admiral. But as a rule of thumb, a starred admiral will not be demoted. For example, if I want to merge the fleets of one-star Admiral Flavius with two-star Admiral Herius, I will have to leave at least one ship on either side.

I've always found it hard to build admirals up command star wise. I'm not sure whether its because their available command boosting traits are limited, or because I'm not especially good at getting involved in naval combat.

I think the dilemma is that if you just overwhelm the enemy with numbers, the admiral won't ever get any command stars, but in close situations, you are as likely to lose as to win, so the promotion of admirals is rarely ever intentional. Or at least that's how I see it.

In the Scipii game I just started this morning, though, there are lots of starred admirals running about-- Scipii, Carthagenian, Greek, Macedonian..... even pirates. I think this probably has to do with how many fleet battles there are-- my war with Carthage, for example, is as much a naval war as a land-based one. Probably not the best of strategies...... but I find it more realistic.

**Punicus** · 02-01-2008, 22:55

I can't even remember the last time I saw an admiral with more than two stars... some of my admirals have fought in 50+ naval battles and not gained a star. I can't explain it. I guess I'm on the same ship (terrible pun intended) as Omanes.

**Good Ship Chuckle** · 02-01-2008, 23:35

I wish I had a clear cut stragety to getting a wonderful admiral, but in this case it really just boiled down to luck, and a bit of prudence as well.

I just know that I never put him in a battle that I didn't think he would win, and immediately after sustaining casualties after a battle, I sent him to port to retrain. I wish I had more of a method to my madness.

When I saw Kallinicus, I just had to share him with someone. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in the real world that plays RTW. All I know are you guys, my cyber buddies!!

Sorry for being a little cheesy there. But thanks for the feedback.

I have to go now, I have some more sailing to do. Arrgg!

**The Wandering Scholar** · 02-01-2008, 23:37

Port defenders usually get good command sars, keep them in safety and train another unit if needs be to win back your port. If one more is not good enough, wait another turn for them to move on.

**Hannibalbarc** · 02-02-2008, 00:09

I've had a 4 star admiral before, One thing that annoys me though is that the admirals don't get along to well because you can never join fleets, so you have to train a fleet for each admiral that you get.

**Caeser The III** · 02-02-2008, 00:55

wow very nice

**Quirinus** · 02-02-2008, 14:06

Originally Posted by Hannibalbarc

I've had a 4 star admiral before, One thing that annoys me though is that the admirals don't get along to well because you can never join fleets, so you have to train a fleet for each admiral that you get.

Yeah, what I said too.

I also hate the fact that the admirals get so awfully attached to their old rickety ships. Most of my starred admirals are biremes, but by the time I get to train triremes, it just seems odd that a bireme is leading a fleet of triremes and even quinqiremes (sp?), like how a peasant unit is captaining an army full of hastati and principes is odd.

Wait, does that make sense? I'm a little groggy, so I don't know if that came out right.

**General Appo** · 02-03-2008, 20:40

As the Seleucids I´ve gotten a Legendary Admiral with Soothsayer and Navigator. That´s 7 stars! From the age of 18 to his death at 75 he as involved in a battle almost every year, mainly against pirates and egypt, but the last 20 years he only fought Brutii. Great guy, I gave him a almost full stacked fleet to clear the Med from ships, which he had finished doing just 2 years before his death. Great man indeed.

**puklo** · 02-19-2008, 10:05

Originally Posted by Quirinus

...it just seems odd that a bireme is leading a fleet of triremes and even quinqiremes (sp?), like how a peasant unit is captaining an army full of hastati and principes is odd....

I play M:TW a lot more than I play R:TW (pls bear with me for a while with this, Rome people); and more oftentimes, I have captains of peasants as my provincial governors (many of them have acumens 4 or more; heavier warriors have only 1 or 2)--and I mostly use them as stay-at-home garrisons so that my best troops could go traipsing around the conquest road. And I don't mind having a peasant big-wig to command my (acumen 2 or less) Huscarles and Feudal Knights. Biremes are faster than triremes and quinquiremes, I believe, so I wouldn't mind placing my bigshot admiral on the command chair of one, leading my fleet of heavier species, were I in your place.
Bye-bye, good folks.