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    I always wondered what it would be like to have awesome Celtic heavy infantry alongside awesome Greek phalanxes. what do you guys think? Am I crazy? (obviously) or can my dream become reality with the help of the EB team?

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    You can already get your hands on that combo as the successor factions & KH & Pontos... so, kinda: what are you waiting for?
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    Would the name Galatia ring a bell ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    Would the name Galatia ring a bell ?
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    Pharnakes!
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    Theres a few historical references to Gallogracians, such as ones that appeared at the battle of Magnesia I think it was, but these could have been Galatians that had mixed with natives, the offspring of them that could have taken on some Greek manners and culture, or, natives with Galatian/Gallic weapons and culture. Not too much detail is written on them. Just the name itself lends reference to some mix of Gaul and Greek in culture, blood, or both. In 198 B.C. Roman commander Vulso, referred to some of the Celts in Galatia as a degenerate mixed race (Gallogracian).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
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    Pharnakes!
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    Play Dacia, build a lvl 4 factional MIC just south of the Danube and pour out Thracian Heavy Infantry and Dacian Phalanxes.

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    @TellosAthenaios: Idk what you're talking about with KH, those guys are the ultimate Greek-only faction. As for Pontos, they're just unsatisfactory all the way around. Their Celtic units are mediocre, as are their Hellenistic ones.

    @Ayce: Every time i attempt a Getai campaign, it all ends up in the hole because i am either too far in debt to ever get out without cheating, or the Sarmatians or Germans come along and wipe out my puny domain that took me thirty turns to build.

    I picked up the Ptolemaoi, and decided that they and their Galatian heavy infantry are pretty much what i was looking for. unfortunately, they have no hoplites, one of my favorite units. sad.
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    They have hoplites from Cyrene I think, and red sea hoplites from somewhere on the shores of the red sea as regionals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torvus
    @TellosAthenaios: Idk what you're talking about with KH, those guys are the ultimate Greek-only faction. As for Pontos, they're just unsatisfactory all the way around. Their Celtic units are mediocre, as are their Hellenistic ones.
    Try a lvl 4 government in Ankyra with a lvl 5 regional MIC. IIRC that gives you Tindanotae, the Galatian counterparts of the Gaesatae...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torvus
    I picked up the Ptolemaoi, and decided that they and their Galatian heavy infantry are pretty much what i was looking for. unfortunately, they have no hoplites, one of my favorite units. sad.
    Amusing. I have a campaign where I was the Koinon-Hellenon and I migrated to Massalia, in southern Gaul. It was a fun campaign, with a mixture of Greek troops from Massalia, along with Gallic, Spanish, Italian, and German auxiliaries.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    PS: I think you might enjoy the Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai, a sort of thureophoroi with a Celtic twist. They can recruited by a variety of factions throughout Asia Minor, Greece, and Gaul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torvus
    @Ayce: Every time i attempt a Getai campaign, it all ends up in the hole because i am either too far in debt to ever get out without cheating, or the Sarmatians or Germans come along and wipe out my puny domain that took me thirty turns to build.
    Just go for Sarmisegetuza in the first turn. Gets you out of debt easily. Then go for Kallatis or -the province where the Scordisci live-

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    @Ayce: Every time i attempt a Getai campaign, it all ends up in the hole because i am either too far in debt to ever get out without cheating, or the Sarmatians or Germans come along and wipe out my puny domain that took me thirty turns to build.[/QUOTE]

    I took Kallatis first, then Sarmizthegusa. It took some tricky balancing and I didn't get out of debt completely till about 250 BC, but it has to be one of the easier campaigns I've played. I never even saw the Sarmatians and the Germans stayed allied with me until about 220, so I thought it was pretty neat. You've got some of the best assault infantry in the game(as well as the cheapest), so playing agressive really works. I wiped out Makedonia, Epeiros, the Koinon Hellenon, and Pontos. Yes, Pontos.
    I got tired of their attacks on Nikaia and launched an expedition to destroy them.
    Of course, I was playing on M/M. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah
    Amusing. I have a campaign where I was the Koinon-Hellenon and I migrated to Massalia, in southern Gaul. It was a fun campaign, with a mixture of Greek troops from Massalia, along with Gallic, Spanish, Italian, and German auxiliaries.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    PS: I think you might enjoy the Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai, a sort of thureophoroi with a Celtic twist. They can recruited by a variety of factions throughout Asia Minor, Greece, and Gaul.
    I think i might try your first suggestion since I'm currently playing a KH campaign. I know i said i was the Ptolemaioi, but the desert fighting and the Grey Death annoyed me too greatly.

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    Does EB feature Auxilliary buildings where you can recruit the conquered nations units? Like in XGM, as pontos take ancyra and train galatians?

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    In my Averni campaign I have a couple units of Massilian hoplites roaming around. I have them charge into an enemy formation with their swords and then they switch to spears and start expanding their circle which completely disrupts the enemy line. Plus with their capes they look like superheroes . I also used Alpine phalanxes as the backbone of my army when I fought the Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom0
    Does EB feature Auxilliary buildings where you can recruit the conquered nations units? Like in XGM, as pontos take ancyra and train galatians?
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    The line of regional MICs is just for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom0
    Does EB feature Auxilliary buildings where you can recruit the conquered nations units? Like in XGM, as pontos take ancyra and train galatians?
    Uh, clearly you haven't played EB before, because all those who play EB know that the major feature of recruitment that EB has is the ability to recruit regional troops in addition and sometimes instead of their own factional troops.

    EDIT: Damn, too slow.

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    Arverni ftw! They rock. I roamed around with Massiliotai, and my elite infantries, in Spain, while fighting with a combined Celt-Belgae-Briton (Kluddargos working with Neitos and Mairepos is just too gay) army in Britannia, a hoplite, lonchophoroi, gaesatae and iaosatae army in Greece and a Thraikian/Skythian army with brihentin and a couple of soldurii in the Balkans. It owns. I love regional troops. I really, really, really, really love the flexibility. My only regret is that my Gauls can't recruit any units that start with 'Iberi' higher than Caetrati, even though they should have the availability, being so close to Spain. Hmm.
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