In each of your TW games, what was your most common unit, not your faviourite but your most common
STW: No-Dachi Samurai
MTW: Feudal/Chivarlic men~at~arms
RTW: Hastati
MTW2: Spear Militia
In each of your TW games, what was your most common unit, not your faviourite but your most common
STW: No-Dachi Samurai
MTW: Feudal/Chivarlic men~at~arms
RTW: Hastati
MTW2: Spear Militia
Hmmm ...
STW: Yari samurai
MTW: the best spear unit available at the time, depending on faction
RTW: n/a
MTW2: n/a
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I spam hastati with the Romans
RTW: Early Legionary Cohort or Phalanx Pikemen
EB: Milnaht (Belgae Swordsmen) or Akontistai/Toxotai (Hellenic Skirmishers/Archers)
M2TW: Billmen or Kazaks
Hmmm...
MTW:VI Either plain old Vikings, or Gallowglasses.
RTW: Probably Hastati, but only because I tendd to finish the game before having much time to play around with legionaries.
EB: Classical hoplites, largely because even when I wasnt playing the KH I'd still hire them as mercs all the time. A possible contender would be those early swordsmen the celtic factions get, the fellows with the longsword who actually wear shirts (can't rmember the name. ).
MTW2: Hard to say, probably either Italian Militia or dismounted Dvor (the former as a bread and butter unit, and the latter as one of my all around favorite units and main component of my Russian armies).
Broken Crescent: So far, Sudanese Longbowmen, or maybe Saracen militia (crappy but cheap and plentiful). This will likely change as I try more factions.
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The best available spearmen. Everything else would change depending on the era, types of cavalry, types of ranged weapons, but I always bring the top tier spearmen with my armies in quantity... and not pikes, halberds, etc.
Even in Broken Crescent where I'm playing a faction without good spearmen, my offensive and defensive armies always have a substantial collection of spearmen.
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RTW: Roundshield cavalry
RTW BI: Hounds of Culann
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STW: Yari Samurai
MTW: VI: Hard to say because I play a lot of mods now, but in the unmodded version, I'd probably say Szekely, because I loved the Hungarians compared to everyone else, and Szekely are useful troops all game long.
RTW: N/A
M2TW: N/A
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Shogun: Yari Samurai
Medieval: Saracen Infantry
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STW: Yari Samurai
MTW: Byzantine Infantry
VI: Viking Landsmen
XL: Voynuk Bladesmen
EB: Classical Hoplites
M2TW: Archer Militia or Peasant Archers
BC: Sudanese Longbowmen
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In my Lusotana and Makedonia EB campaigns: Akontistai. Best for garrison duty.
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hastati or legionary cohort
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Armored Hoplites in Rome
Comitatenses in BI
Phalangists in Alexander
Spear Militia in Medieval 2
I don't play Shogun or Medieval often enough to have a common unit.
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STW: n/a
-> MI: n/a
MTW: Camels
-> VI: Any kind of Huscarles
RTW: Camel Cataphracts if i can get them.
-> BI: Haven't really played it enough.
-> Alexander: n/a
MTW2: Most kinds of mounted archers.
-> Kingdoms: n/a
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MTW: Urban Militia
RTW: Round Shield Cavalry
MTWII: Spear Militia
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I agree with most other posters - it tends to be spearmen. (The only exception is as Rome.) I am not sure if this is because they are good, or instead because they are the worst unit and so die a lot, needing to be replaced. They are cheap, low tech and can hold off the enemy long enough for the real battle winners to do their job.
My killer units tend to be archers and heavy cavalry, but they tend not to die and I keep their numbers down for realism and to maintain the challenge. The poor spearmen form the frontline and so get hammered by everything - archers, cav, swords and enemy spears. Swords tend to be better, but are harder to get and more survivable.
STW: Yari samurai
MTW: Chivalric sergeants (or feudal sergeants on early)
RTW: Hastati or principes
BI: Plumbatarii (so much better than comitatenses)
EB: Hastati or principes
M2TW: Armored sergeants (so much better than spear militia, but still lousy) - mercs if England
Hmm.. tricky
MTW: Vikings.
VI: Viking landsmenn
RTW: Hasati or legionaries.
BI: Comitatenses
MTW2: Dismounted feudal knights or Longbowmen.
RTW: Long Shield Cavalry (Carthage) and Hoplites (Greece)
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MTW: Byzantine Infantry
RTW: Horse archers / Persian Cavalry
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STW: not played.
MTW: Saracen infantery and steppe heavy cav (VI version)
RTW, only modded playing, so... RTR; Chalkaspidai and EB; Parthian noble horse archers.
MTW2, not played (are janissaries back?)
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In Shogun, I think it's either Samurai Archers or Yari Samurai - like most of you. Not to say those are my favourites though, just two of the most useful units around.
In Medieval, it's probably something like Spearmen or Archers - some basic unit that you'd use a lot in the beginning of a campaign.
In Rome, either those Germanic Phalanx thingies (warbands?), Hastati or the Greek Phalanx thingies. Can't really remember.
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RTW:Early Leigons
MTW:N/A
STW:N/A
MTW2:Feudal Knights
EB:Hastati
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STW - Never played.
STW: MI - Never played.
MTW - FMAA
MTW:VI - Viking Landsmen.
RTW - Hastati
RTW:BI - not played.
RTW:alexander - not played.
M2TW - Not played.
M2TW:Kingdoms - never played.
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STW/MI.........warrior monks
MTW/VI (XL, P&M, NTW, ATW) Byzantine Infantry
RTW/BI (RTR, RS1.5, IBFD, RioFD, FATW, LoTRTW) Nomad Archer Cav. or it's rough equelvient.
M2TW/Kingdoms..not played
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STW/MI -
Yari Samurai
No Dachi Samurai/Warrior Monks
MTW -
Saracen Infantry
Futuwwa
Camels
VI -
Kerns
Bonnachts
Gallowglasses
Celtic Warriors
Horsemen
RTW -
Numidian Cavalry
Numidian Javelinmen
Desert Infantry
Numidian Camel Riders
Warband/Swordsmen/Chosen Swordsmen
Slingers (when and where available)
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In RTW it's mainly phalanxes.
In M2TW it's usually longbow or crossbow type units (with armour upgrades so they can also act as infantry) or some sort of pike unit.
"From the limited play that I achieve on RTW, it would have to be Hastati followed closely by Principes. I generally haven't played with another faction, but spearman always seem to be a good choice. Hastati/Principes are the bread and butter of the early roman legions and since I try to fight battles the traditional Roman way, the Hastati suffer the most casualties engaging the enemy first. (That is unless I get flanked)
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STW: Yari Samurai
MTW: Feudal Man at Arms or Byzantine Infantry
VI: Fyrdmen
RTW: Armoured Hoplites or Phalanx Pikemen
BI: Whatever the Frankish spearmen were called
MTW2: Sergeant Spearmen
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