Go north young Roman...

**antisocialmunky** · 02-02-2008, 19:50

Does anyone here every see the Romans expand into the Sicily instead of attritioning the people of the Po Valley into dust?

I've rarely seen then even take Taras... Its REALLY annoying.

**Mediolanicus** · 02-02-2008, 20:05

Well the first few years, the Romans hardly do anything. But after about 50 years they usually have takes Sicilia or Corsica and Sardinia and are starting to expand into southern Gaul and the Illyria. At least, so they do in my campains.

**anubis88** · 02-02-2008, 20:25

well.... once when i played with carthage i helped the take taras and reghion, left messana barely defended so thy conquered it... And then they did take the rest of sicily... They sent 3 legions, and i left them have it after 2 battles for roleplaying reasons

**Torvus** · 02-02-2008, 20:26

Yeah, i find that annoying too. In my campaigns, they almost always head straight into Germany. in fact, i had a campaign where Hannibal's people kicked the Romans out of Italy and they migrated into Germany.

Imagine what the world would be like if that actually happened

**TWFanatic** · 02-02-2008, 20:42

Indeed, Rome rarely expands into Sicily, never mind Corsica or Sardinia. If you're lucky and they do expand southwards, its at a much slower rate than their northern expansion.

**NeoSpartan** · 02-02-2008, 21:05

true... but is not as bad as in .81x

The new Boii Gallum, Helvetii, and other tribes are much stronger now. Before the Romani where reaching Gaul proper by 268BC, now they take much much longer.

**NEver** · 02-03-2008, 00:03

Konny's win conditions alterations are kinda attempting to ammend this and switching to alexander improves the AI in general but even after all that Rome still has this irritating tendency to go north instead of south. They seem to be expanding along the shores more which is good.

It's very different from the agessive scipii south expansion in vanilla. Maybe if the EB team tried to make all the AI relations and scripts for SPQR more similar to Vanilla's scipii faction... But I doubt it

**Justinian II** · 02-03-2008, 03:16

Originally Posted by Torvus

Yeah, i find that annoying too. In my campaigns, they almost always head straight into Germany. in fact, i had a campaign where Hannibal's people kicked the Romans out of Italy and they migrated into Germany.

Imagine what the world would be like if that actually happened

Wasn't there an alternate historical fiction novel about something like that?

**antisocialmunky** · 02-03-2008, 05:19

Yes, the 'Great German Migration,' I have more than once seen or heard of (World According to the KH) the Roman's lust to see the scantily clad women of the Proto-Scandinavian Baltic Coast.

I really hope the inclusion of the Boii/N. Italian Faction in EB2 fixes this since that seems like the only real possibility of making it work as sticking a legion by Taras would just trigger the Pyhrric 'walk away... just walk away' from Pella response -you get a balloon if you can guess what that's refering too. Perhaps if they were placed with Taras being between them and their territory... I wonder though what would happen if you put a Rebel stack to stand in for some Samnites that are conquered(mentioned in the History popup) would encourage them to take Rhegion. It would be nice to have the factions in Italy in a epic death struggle from the outset(the factions in Gaul ALWAYS seem to beat the snot out of each other).

**NeoSpartan** · 02-03-2008, 09:03

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Yes, the 'Great German Migration,' I have more than once seen or heard of (World According to the KH) the Roman's lust to see the scantily clad women of the Proto-Scandinavian Baltic Coast.

I really hope the inclusion of the Boii/N. Italian Faction in EB2 fixes this since that seems like the only real possibility of making it work as sticking a legion by Taras would just trigger the Pyhrric 'walk away... just walk away' from Pella response -you get a balloon if you can guess what that's refering too. Perhaps if they were placed with Taras being between them and their territory... I wonder though what would happen if you put a Rebel stack to stand in for some Samnites that are conquered(mentioned in the History popup) would encourage them to take Rhegion. It would be nice to have the factions in Italy in a epic death struggle from the outset(the factions in Gaul ALWAYS seem to beat the snot out of each other).

Hey I actually like that idea of a Sammite settlement with a strong rebel stack in Italy..... or maybe just a rebal stack or two