Sardinian and Corsican units

**anubis88** · 02-02-2008, 23:53

Why aren't there any? In both my campaigns with rome and carthage i lost an island to the oponent becouse i couldn't recruit any units.
I dunno if there are any units in the higher MIC, but i'm wondering why aren't any local levys?
Were they bad fighters, or the EB never thought of including them?
I'm pretty sure i've read that the Carthaginians used Sardinian units.
Any feedback would be apriciated

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 02-03-2008, 00:11

There was a unit planned for that area but it never got made. I think there was an arguement over what exactly they would be like, since there was little info about them. There was talk about getting them into v1.1, but I don't think that ever got done...

**General Appo** · 02-03-2008, 00:51

Well, on Corsica I can train some minor Greek units as the Romani.
I think Hoplitai Haploi (Greek Levy Hoplites) and Akontistai (Hellenic Skirmishers) are the only ones. On Sardinia though I can´t train anything expect ships and agents, even though I have the highest MIC. Though I´m not sure if that changes with the Marian reforms.
But really, I think you should at least be able to recruit some militia units from either the Greek or Punic colonies on Sardinia, perhaps even some of Nuraghe.
Of course, I can understand if the Romans can´t recruit Punic militas, and perhaps there weren´t enough Greek colonies to recruit from, so if that is indeed the case, then I am okay with it, as i seem to recall being able to recruit Poeni Militia as Karth´astdim. and of course, if there isn´t enough info on the Nuraghe´s warfare then it´s pretty hard to include them.

**Zarax** · 02-03-2008, 01:03

Is Tanit still around?
He was the one that talked about the unit and I got info for him...

**Redmeth** · 02-03-2008, 01:42

Originally Posted by Zarax

Is Tanit still around?
He was the one that talked about the unit and I got info for him...

He checks in from time to time, he's busy with school...

**konny** · 02-03-2008, 10:39

Originally Posted by anubis88

Were they bad fighters, or the EB never thought of including them?

Certainly not. The Romans had much trouble in getting the hinterland of these Islands under controll for centuries. I think that at least Akontistai and Haploi should be available on Sardinia too.

**Zarax** · 02-03-2008, 12:52

Sardinians weren't bad fighters at all.
In fact, Sardinia was sort of mini-iberia for the romans in terms of conquest.
The native population in the mountainous region of barbagia (the balares and other "sardi pelliti") kept fighting the romans in guerrilla-style for over a century.
Romans had to resort to forest fires and wardogs to successfully penetrate the interior, which remained unsafe until early imperial times.

**General Appo** · 02-03-2008, 13:58

Then shouldn´t there be some minor units from Sardinia? At least as small rebel stacks appearing. It might be hard to say exactly how they fought, but perhaps it´s possible to guess with some certainity. Maybe just one single unit with a couple of javelins, no armour and a spear or whatever they most likely used. Please? It would be really cool I think.
Maybe something like the Balroae (Caledonian Skirmishers), I know they are located far away from each other, but the Balroae is a prime example of a weak but annoying guerrila unit.
I know there have been significant excavations and such on Sardinia of the Nuraghi towers, and one (me) would suspect that the archeologist would have found things like arrowheads, spearpoints, or other sorts of things that are often found near ancient important symbolic sites. Of course, I know very little on the matter, and I am mostly speculating.
But still, everyone must agree that picturing Sardinia as a completely peaceful island once taken by the Romani is slightly historicaly incorrect.

**Chris1959** · 02-03-2008, 19:07

Ah but if the natives are'nt friendly they ain't going to join your army!

**General Appo** · 02-03-2008, 19:21

Yeah, but it would be cool even if you could only fight against them. Besides, I can always bribe a couple, and then give them garrison duty in Siberia.
And that´s if they´re nice.

**Gododdin O'Ceallagh** · 02-17-2008, 10:52

Surely there should be no region that does not provide units for any faction. At the very least there should be an ability to levy peasants to form units of skirmishers or archers/slingers. In Corsica and Sardinia the Carthaginians should be able to raise these types of units as well as some Poeni citizen militia.

G. O'C