Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

@CR: Did you pm the link to anyone?

When did you (CR) tell Sasaki about the meeting? From what I gather, it must have been several days ago. Probably even before Sigurd revealed it in the thread ... Why has Sasaki waited so long before he made his case against CR?

I was told just prior to posting in the thread.

It is a pity the plan didn't work. Rather than it saying 6 people showed up, it said at least 4. That doesn't help one bit. I do wonder what that banner thing was about though. As for someone else being part of the failed hit on Ichigo the night before, that can't be right because it was Haudegen, TinCow and myself who were involved on the first hit. So unless Haudegen was the scum (Which we can't rule out) it was one of the two of us. I'm going out on a limb and saying it wasn't me. However, like I said we can't rule out it was Haudegen, so TinCow may not be scum.

Yup, seems Seamus doesn't want to provide that kind of verification. I'm not prepared to condemn anyone based solely on the banner message and previous missed kill.

Was anybody with CountArach last night? Is that whole 'vig group infiltrant' thingy that started yesterday night sorted out?

I'm working on it.

Why did the 'glaive' (blade) kill last night? Who is this single-person killer? Was it JimBob, 'the blade / sword'? 'Below the full facemask was a high-collared black coat with a silver sword-pin on the left collar point. In the hands of this figure was some kind of sword on a long wooden handle. <> thought Ferret, fixating on the deadly blade.'

A lone killer tried to kill TinCow with a blade, and W&F was killed with a blade. Though not a glaive. I thought a glaive was a polarm not a sword. Sigurd's claimed hitman was supposed to be responsible for those. Can you check JimBob's profile to see when he was last online? Could exonerate him.

[Ferret]

what kind of person attacked me? Never seen a glaive before lol.

vote:Warluster
select:TinCow

I still think TC is best for the town, he's helped us a lot so far, except you still let me be attacked by some glaive wielding maniac

[Crazed Rabbit]

Prole should be Director instead of Tincow.

She's more experienced at mafia.

CR

[CountArach]

Select: prole

I don't trust her entirely, but I trust most people less

Vote: Charge

Now that I see the case against him, and seeing there are no confirmed scum still running around, time to bring him down.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ok I was going to pm around and ask some people but I checked the rules and it's not necessary:

[snip]

edit: nevermind I misread something.

[TinCow]

Please point out the contradiction that you claim exists. I see no contradiction between that rule and my result.

Also, please tell me who else did not show up to the hit other than me. The report says 4 people. One was me, as you can tell from my result PM. Who was the other?

[shlin28]

Vote: Warluster

Surely a lurker with a criminal result is more lynch-worthy than a semi-active player with a criminal result?

Select: Prole

[CountArach]

Vote: Warluster

Surely a lurker with a criminal result is more lynch-worthy than a semi-active player with a criminal result?

Select: Prole

The lurker is likely to get WoGed.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sorry, I think that was a misreading on my part.

edit: pm'd the explanation to you.

[TinCow]

The indications I have seen are that Ichigo may have had a special ability that prevented some of his attackers from showing up. This casts some doubt on the situation on N9 as well, though as far as I can tell, no one on the N9 hit got the additional text that I did on N10.

[Kagemusha]

Vote: TruePraetorian. According to JimBob´s list here, he has been actively sabotaging the town effort, while all we have against Charge and few others is a criminal result. Here is a link to original post of Jimbob:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=2208

Also, Select: Proletariat. It seems she is the best choice for the director for now, maybe the town effort could do with bit a of a woman touch.

[TinCow]

The evidence against TP came directly from me. It was based on an error that Seamus made in one of the write-ups. I recanted my accusation on TP shortly afterwards, here. AFAIK, there is currently no evidence to suggest that TP is mafia.

[Kagemusha]

Thanks Tincow. In that case there is no reason to vote for him. So lets turn to someone else who has been mafia associated before and has been lurking the last couple rounds. Vote: Scottishranger. How have you been lately?

[Kagemusha]

Gah! Forgot to unvote. Unvote and Vote : Scottishranger

[Caius]

Vote: Warluster

Better lynch a confirmed criminal

[Craterus]

Maybe I'm being a bit thick but why are we selecting Prole? She's not a confirmed innocent, AFAIK, and it would gives the mafia a shot at JimBob tonight.

For that reason, I'll FoS: Kukri for starting the run of votes on Prole. After all, the main argument seems to be that she's active and JimBob isn't. Why do we need an active director? On the off-chance we get a multi-lynch to work out, Seamus would probably just have them both executed if JimBob didn't turn up to decree something.

I'll vote once I've reread the last few pages.

[gibsonsg91921]

Vote: Warluster

If he ain't posting he's killing.

[Craterus]

That's interesting.

Post counts
gibsonsg91921 5
Warluster 5

What have you been up to, gibson?

[Charge]

oh last vote before I die...
Tincow's evidence against me is soo astounding so this round is definitely last .

vote: scottishranger

select: Myrddraal
he's better anyway than others for that place.

[Twilightblade]

select: prole

was'nt the 'glaive' weapon named an ashendari or somethin maybe that has something to do with it

[Craterus]

Ok. I'll vote: Charge, he doesn't seem to have denied being mafia yet and has been suspected for a few rounds.

Select: Abstain

[Kagemusha]

Ok. I'll vote: Charge, he doesn't seem to have denied being mafia yet and has been suspected for a few rounds.

Select: Abstain

I think you just broke a tie between Charge and Warluster. Why? Both are confirmed criminals, so wouldnt lynching both be better then just one of them?Il fix that for you. Unvote and Vote: Warluster

[PershsNhpios]

Let me tell you why I don't trust Proletariat.


Sasaki Kojiro and Proletariat are joined at the hip.

Everybody distrusts Sasaki Kojiro.

Everybody trusts Proletariat.

Now you tell me how that makes sense.

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As for the secondary Crusader goals, the first, (Only able to allude here), was either similar or exactly the same as the Townie victory conditions.
Then there was another - completely harmless to the town - but created so that we Crusaders could never really trust anyone in the end.

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Thank you, Craterus, for noticing this strange event with Prollywat.

But TinCow???

Why? Why would you join in on this?

[Craterus]

I think you just broke a tie between Charge and Warluster. Why? Both are confirmed criminals, so wouldnt lynching both be better then just one of them?Il fix that for you. Unvote and Vote: Warluster

I wasn't aware there was a tie. No-one has posted a tally for the entire round. Rather lazy, don't you think? So Kage, if you've got a tally, perhaps you should post it.

[TinCow]

Glenn: Prole was clearly protected by a surgeon on the night that EMFM was killed. That means that the probability of her being a Don is absurdly low. What else is required? As you'll note, CR also supports her. I trust his judgment. I would happily keep voting for JimBob, but he hasn't checked his PMs since February 22nd. He's likely to get WoGed any day now, so is not an ideal choice for Director. I prefer someone who can actually Direct.

[Craterus]

It's not a reason to rule her out though. You have to consider who the surgeon was and the relationship between them. Husar and Prole know each other in the chat and I think it would be fair to say they are friends. I think this is significant.

Prole only had to deceive him into protecting her each night and from that, most of the town now believes her to be innocent.

I'm not taking sides here, Prole probably is innocent but we can't know for sure.

[gibsonsg91921]

That's interesting.

Post counts
gibsonsg91921 5
Warluster 5

What have you been up to, gibson?

I've been mostly too busy to do stuff. After the KOTR kill group got foiled by TC, I haven't been really doing anything, just dropping in as time permits. TC, Northnovas, or GH can vouch for the fact that I was too busy to be in on any of the PMs except for the kill ones. Since that group dropped I just let go, buzzing by every now and then.

[TinCow]

It's not a reason to rule her out though. You have to consider who the surgeon was and the relationship between them. Husar and Prole know each other in the chat and I think it would be fair to say they are friends. I think this is significant.

Prole only had to deceive him into protecting her each night and from that, most of the town now believes her to be innocent.

I'm not taking sides here, Prole probably is innocent but we can't know for sure.

Prole was protected by a surgeon on N8. Husar was murdered on N7. If Husar was the Surgeon, he's really damn good at it.

[Joe Monks]

Select:Prole

Vote:Charge

Seems to be mafia.

Joe

[TruePraetorian]

vote: abstain

have to get my vote in, and dont want to mess with the tie.

select: prole

selecting someone else would be a waste of a select...

hope you all pardon the quick post...internet is going down again...