Faction migrations

[Quirinus]

Ooh, that's a thought. How would do do that, and how many turns would that take, approximately? I actually tried settling Crete and Rhodes once as the Brutii. I was in deficit for many turns, and was utterly dependent on other factions (Macedon, Greeks, Pontus, Egypt), but the money just came rolling in once I had Rhodes and a few other coastal provinces. The Julii took over my lands in Italy.

If you move the Julii to Egypt, who takes your former lands in Italy? Does the Brutii/SPQR do that, or are they overrun by Gaul/Germania/Dacia?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I typically sell my old Italian lands to either the Brutii or the Scipii when I've finished with them. If they won't give me money for them I usually let them rebel, resulting in me getting a batch of senate missions ordering me to take them back.

The Brutii or the Scipii usually take them off the rebels hands eventually though, and sometimes they even go North a short distance, coming into contact with the Gauls. Although they never stray too far in that direction, it can be entertaining watching a differing version of R:TW's usually uniform expansion.

[Punicus]

I like the starting positions of most of the factions I play as, so I never really gave this much thought. But I find it pretty interesting now that I consider it. Omanes basically hit the nail on the head as far as reasons for doing this go, so there's no use in repeating what has been said, but I will definitely try this sometime when I need to.

[Spartan198]

I can't stand not having Sparta,Byzantium,and Rhodes under my spear.

[Punicus]

I can't stand not having Sparta,Byzantium,and Rhodes under my spear.

Indeed, generally that whole area is just a fantastic economic homeland. And it's quite centralized. Only one boat trip to Africa and Italy, if I remember correctly.

[Julius_Nepos]

Way back in the days of RTW 1.0 I used to use Macedon as a migratory faction, mainly to avoid dealing with the Romans before I was ready. I'd abandon Greece and if things went to plan I'd end up with Byzantium, Nicomedia, Sardis, Rhodes, Hallicarnassus, and Pergamum, a good base of operations. Sadly this option was removed in later versions of the game as it became far harder to trade provinces (even at a loss) without a large cash bribe as well.

My Alternative, in the late game, became to forcibly migrate other factions by bribing enemy cities outside of my zone of control and then handing them over to other weak and or distant factions like Britain or Dacia. Seeing Egypt overrun by massive and powerful Celtic armies from England was fun. Anyway just pointing out here one need not migrate personally to see its effects, it can be a passive game of population redistribution as well. Cheers!

[The Wandering Scholar]

It could be fun to say change everyones starting positions with the descr_start

[Quirinus]

Way back in the days of RTW 1.0 I used to use Macedon as a migratory faction, mainly to avoid dealing with the Romans before I was ready. I'd abandon Greece and if things went to plan I'd end up with Byzantium, Nicomedia, Sardis, Rhodes, Hallicarnassus, and Pergamum, a good base of operations. Sadly this option was removed in later versions of the game as it became far harder to trade provinces (even at a loss) without a large cash bribe as well.

My Alternative, in the late game, became to forcibly migrate other factions by bribing enemy cities outside of my zone of control and then handing them over to other weak and or distant factions like Britain or Dacia. Seeing Egypt overrun by massive and powerful Celtic armies from England was fun. Anyway just pointing out here one need not migrate personally to see its effects, it can be a passive game of population redistribution as well. Cheers!

I actually tried that, but I've found that a lot of the time, other factions will simply refuse your gift. I find this odd-- anyone ever encounter something like this?