CIA: Waterboarding used on 3 suspects

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Husar 11:43 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by HoreTore:
What happened to "presumed innocent until proved guilty"?

What happened to the boy who cried "Wolf!"?

HoreTore 12:26 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by Husar:
What happened to the boy who cried "Wolf!"?

He got a billion dollar record deal and married Angelina?

Husar 13:15 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by HoreTore:
He got a billion dollar record deal and married Angelina?

Now that you say that, it's "presumed innocent until proven guilty".

The point was that they lie, a lot. And this is politics, not a court(well, in court I'd agree with you) so everybody is allowed to have her/his own opinion on the matter and I think they're guilty.

HoreTore 17:24 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by Husar:
Now that you say that, it's "presumed innocent until proven guilty".

I actually wrote it like that, but edited in the "d" afterwards since it sounded silly with an "n"

Originally Posted by Husar:
The point was that they lie, a lot. And this is politics, not a court(well, in court I'd agree with you) so everybody is allowed to have her/his own opinion on the matter and I think they're guilty.

I was referring to CIA vs. tewwowists, not Lemur

ie. shouldn't the CIA treat the suspects like innocent men until their found guilty in a court of law? Not like it's ever going to happen, but still...

Vladimir 18:05 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by HoreTore:
ie. shouldn't the CIA treat the suspects like innocent men until their found guilty in a court of law? Not like it's ever going to happen, but still...

Yes, let's revisit the '90s where the major terrorist attacks happened overseas. 1993 being the exception of course.

No, the answer is no for a host of reasons already belabored upon.

HoreTore 18:11 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by Vladimir:
Yes, let's revisit the '90s where the major terrorist attacks happened overseas. 1993 being the exception of course.

No, the answer is no for a host of reasons already belabored upon.

So, you're OK with innocent people getting tortured along with the bad guys, if it keeps you safe?

Vladimir 18:16 02-07-2008

Originally Posted by HoreTore:
So, you're OK with innocent people getting tortured along with the bad guys, if it keeps you safe?

There you go again. You're ASSuming they're innocent and that they automatically get tortured. Think on it.

Husar 00:05 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by HoreTore:
I actually wrote it like that, but edited in the "d" afterwards since it sounded silly with an "n"

Originally Posted by HoreTore:
I was referring to CIA vs. tewwowists, not Lemur

ie. shouldn't the CIA treat the suspects like innocent men until their found guilty in a court of law? Not like it's ever going to happen, but still...

Okay, then we agree.

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