1.1 historical battles

**Leviathan DarklyCute** · 02-06-2008, 12:55

I saw in the 1.1 prewiew that there will be add new historical battles. I remember that RTRPE featured the battle of Magnesia. It was a really awesome battle in which the seleucids and the romans clash with all their might.
I was wondering if EB team could included this battle, or similar epic battles alike in 1.1?

sorry if my english is bad

**pezhetairoi** · 02-06-2008, 13:07

Well, Asculum (if Asculum it is) saw the Romans and the Epeirotes clash with all their might too. And Telamon saw the Celts and Romans clash with all their might. And Carrhae saw the Parthians and Romans clash with all their might.

Is anyone else noticing, but is there some over-fixation on the Romans here?

**Geoffrey S** · 02-06-2008, 13:23

There was a battle of Magnesia available here for 0.81 (I think).

**Christianus** · 02-06-2008, 13:23

Its probably a fixation because the romans conquered the mediteranean (and then some), therefore they had huge and important battles with those who opposed them:) What about bringing in some of their civil War battles. For example "Battle of Lyon" (I think) Between Septimius Severus and Clodius Albinus 197 A.D. ?

**marodeur** · 02-06-2008, 13:25

You are right, most historicaql battles are with rome.

Additional Battles I would like to see:

Raphia (Ptolies-Seleukids), Cannae and Zama (Carthaginans-Romans), Gergovia (Gauls-Romans), Chaironeia (Pontos-Romans), teutoburger Wald (Sweboz-romans), the elephant-battle (galatians-seleukids), some of the battles between epeirotes and romans.

Once again, roman predominance.

Battles which I would like to see but don't know anything about:

parthian invasion of the seleukid empire
baktrian fight for independence against the seleukids
baktrian march against the indian kingdoms,
battles between different gallic tribes,
battles between romans and lusotannan
battles between romans and Getai (Decebalus)
battles between romans and casse

The problem is, that for historical battles you need quite precise information about terrain, troop numbers and composition, tactics and so on. But AFAIK there are not very many suitable sources for non-roman battles, especially for those between barbarian factions. Most of the big battles between the successor states have happened before the EB-timeline. So there will always be a roman predominance in the historical battle compartment. It's unavoidable i guess.

**Eduorius** · 02-06-2008, 15:29

Some battles have very little info. We know that it occured and we know the names of the commanders, but we dont know the number of soldiers or what tactics they used. It would be better to be represented as a custom battle.

Many battles have been scripted for the next release so you will see the X scale army doing what they really did in history and not the AI.

**Tyrfingr** · 02-06-2008, 20:41

Originally Posted by Eduorius

Some battles have very little info. We know that it occured and we know the names of the commanders, but we dont know the number of soldiers or what tactics they used. It would be better to be represented as a custom battle.

Many battles have been scripted for the next release so you will see the X scale army doing what they really did in history and not the AI.

Any date (or hint of date) when 1.1 might be out?