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    Default Diphtongs in classical greek

    How were the „oi” „ai” „au” „eu” (now [i] [e] [af/av] [ef/ev]) pronounced back then?

    I know the b->v and mp->b changes, but not these. When selecting Thraikioi Podromoi I hear it as it's written, not Threki Podromi as it would be in modern greek.

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    Default Re: Diphtongs in classical greek

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayce
    How were the „oi” „ai” „au” „eu” (now [i] [e] [af/av] [ef/ev]) pronounced back then?

    I know the b->v and mp->b changes, but not these. When selecting Thraikioi Podromoi I hear it as it's written, not Threki Podromi as it would be in modern greek.
    What do you mean with these? b->v and mp->b ?
    are you trying to say that a "b" sounds like "v"? that's not true. The greek alphabet doesn't have a sound that would match the letter v
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    I meant β is spelled v and μπ is spelled b now. When in classical they were spelled b and mp respectively. I'm interested in how οι αι ει ευ αυ were spelled back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayce
    I meant β is spelled v and μπ is spelled b now. When in classical they were spelled b and mp respectively. I'm interested in how οι αι ει ευ αυ were spelled back then.
    well, spelling wise, we have lots of documentation to support how things were spelled - so οι αι ει ευ αυ were mostly as put there - pending dialectic variation, obviously.

    for how that sounded, i've heard various ideas about it, but the most commonly accepted one (lame as it is) is that we have no idea. just like we have no idea how classical latin sounded when spoken, if indeed it was spoken at all in the way it was written. that's certainly the conservative response to the "sound" of classical greek and latin.
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    So the reason why Greek unit selection sounds sound so weird is because it is thought that Greek was WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)... I still think for example [θraīkjoī podromoj] sounds stupid; no wonder modern Greek pronunciation changed.

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    You are talking about modern greek pronunciations. They differ a lot in certain places from classical greek. It's a topic that many many threads here have been about - I'm in a rush this second so I can't search for them, but many many threads have tried to explain the differences.

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