b) for certain it impossible. Really, really impossible. There is not even any suggestion that it could be possible.
a) I'm with watchman on this. Why would you even want to do this?
Foot
b) for certain it impossible. Really, really impossible. There is not even any suggestion that it could be possible.
a) I'm with watchman on this. Why would you even want to do this?
Foot
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b) okOriginally Posted by Foot
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a) well i was having some experiments with pikemen in mtw2 i remove phalanx and added shieldwall the result was an unbreakable pike line without gaps with the pikes stand out well almost equally but with a great visual and practical efect and i wandered if this was possible in rtw
"Alexander came by the statue of his father and spoke loud: `Youths of the Pellaians and of the Macedonians and of the Hellenic Amphictiony and of the Lakedaimonians and of the Corinthians... and of all the Hellenic peoples, join your fellow-soldiers and entrust yourselves to me, so that we can move against the barbarians and liberate ourselves from the Persian bondage, for AS Hellenes WE should not be slaves to barbarians."
well i was influenced by this picture
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"Alexander came by the statue of his father and spoke loud: `Youths of the Pellaians and of the Macedonians and of the Hellenic Amphictiony and of the Lakedaimonians and of the Corinthians... and of all the Hellenic peoples, join your fellow-soldiers and entrust yourselves to me, so that we can move against the barbarians and liberate ourselves from the Persian bondage, for AS Hellenes WE should not be slaves to barbarians."
...which specifically displays the staggered "layers" of pike-tips of the successive ranks, so I'm not quite following you here...![]()
Last edited by Watchman; 02-14-2008 at 21:17.
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they looked like the pikemen in the picture (when they were fighting that is)Originally Posted by The Wicked
"Alexander came by the statue of his father and spoke loud: `Youths of the Pellaians and of the Macedonians and of the Hellenic Amphictiony and of the Lakedaimonians and of the Corinthians... and of all the Hellenic peoples, join your fellow-soldiers and entrust yourselves to me, so that we can move against the barbarians and liberate ourselves from the Persian bondage, for AS Hellenes WE should not be slaves to barbarians."
Do make allowances for artistic license, composition etc. Anyway, the Roman writings on the phalanx make a note on the staggered spear-points as well, and a fair bit can be deduced from considerably later Europan and Japanese pike formations - there being only so many ways to use the damn flagpoles right.
Plus, shorter pikes for the front-rankers would be not only logistically annoying and generally pointless, but downright tactically stupid - when the whole point of the weapon and formation is to out-reach the enemy with serried ranks of long pointy things, so that he is held at bay and hopefully dispatched without ever having the opportunity to land a blow himself, shorter shafts would only be counterproductive.
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
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Originally Posted by Watchman
sorry
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Hmm ok point taken![]()
Subject coverred !
"Alexander came by the statue of his father and spoke loud: `Youths of the Pellaians and of the Macedonians and of the Hellenic Amphictiony and of the Lakedaimonians and of the Corinthians... and of all the Hellenic peoples, join your fellow-soldiers and entrust yourselves to me, so that we can move against the barbarians and liberate ourselves from the Persian bondage, for AS Hellenes WE should not be slaves to barbarians."
When the 13th US Infantry Regiment was reconstituted for the War of 1812 there was a shortage of muskets so their colonel, Zebulon Pike, reorganized them to fight in three ranks instead of two- the first two with muskets and the third with long spears which came to equal length with the front rank soldiers with bayonets at guard. If the second rank was at "thrust out" and held there (physically impossible), you'd have three ranks with the tips of their weapons all at the same distance from the front of the battalion.
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