Specifically I meant units such as Obudshear (mispelled Im sure..) or other Heavily armored spears. Just seems that in the open field they move slower which does make sense I guess. Even with spearwall off they dont go as fast as a militia or merc. Maybe it just seemed like that to me at the time. As I said before, I usually dont field heavy pikes/spears instead I stagger a militia/merc spear into the front line which is usually swords/ranged and keep 1 or 2 back to hold calvary off flanks. Fielded against the Mongols for example, I use only militia spears because of cost and (I thought) speed.