Castro Resigns

**Pannonian** · 02-19-2008, 17:08

Originally Posted by Beirut

Not even close. Seven years vs. about fifty. One impoverished El Presidente with a population eating lawn grass and driving bicycles and `55 Chevy`s outlasted everything the CIA could throw at him, and blew through Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and right into the last year of W`s second term.

There`s no mistake who won this fight.

One of them was a dictatorial el Presidente who took a formerly rich country and ran it into the ground, and the other one's Fidel Castro.

**Vladimir** · 02-19-2008, 17:26

Originally Posted by Pannonian

One of them was a dictatorial el Presidente who took a formerly rich country and ran it into the ground, and the other one's Fidel Castro.

Originally Posted by Beirut

Not even close. Seven years vs. about fifty. One impoverished El Presidente with a population eating lawn grass and driving bicycles and `55 Chevy`s outlasted everything the CIA could throw at him, and blew through Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and right into the last year of W`s second term.

There`s no mistake who won this fight.

Originally Posted by SwordsMaster

How is that related to the general corruption, robbery and general crappiness of the american healthcare system?

Spain has private clinics, sure, but it also has a national welfare system.

My point was that when the embargo is lifted US doctors will have to face tougher competition, and therefore lower costs. Cubans don't have to pay off ridiculous college loans, and therefore will be cheaper.

As a side effect, perhaps the ridiculous college fees might be curbed also.

You want to talk corruption?

Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we just make an exact duplicate of Britain's NHS?

Are you serious? How many people flock to Cuba, Spain, and the UK for treatment? How was East Germany doing before reunification?

**SwordsMaster** · 02-19-2008, 17:38

Originally Posted by Vladimir

You want to talk corruption?

Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we just make an exact duplicate of Britain's NHS?

Are you serious? How many people flock to Cuba, Spain, and the UK for treatment? How was East Germany doing before reunification?

You'd be surprised. And at least in the UK, Cuba and Spain it's available to all citizens. Sure it isn't perfect, but doctors are there when you're sick and can't work, not just when you're healthy enough to work.

Besides, what are you trying to prove, that the US system is not overpriced through the roof? Or that it couldn't benefit from competition? Or is it specifically cuban competition you don't like?

**Xiahou** · 02-19-2008, 17:40

Originally Posted by SwordsMaster

You'd be surprised. And at least in the UK, Cuba and Spain it's available to all citizens.

"available" can be a relative term....

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 02-19-2008, 22:32

I'm a little sorry to see him go. I mean, as a moderate-right wing monarchist, I'm about as far away from his idealogy as I can get. However, the man lasted fifty years with the most powerful nation on earth trying to kill him, recieving no trade from the closest major power, and managed to instate one of the world's best healthcare systems.

The man had style. My respects.