Gated communitys

**Vladimir** · 02-20-2008, 16:16

Join the military. Gates, guards, and housing for free!

**Fragony** · 02-20-2008, 16:56

I believe they did something like that in Christiana, Denmark. It's sort of a hippy enclave.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 02-20-2008, 17:00

I don't think it would fly in the U.S. at all. We fought a war because of that. In fact, the only time a state seceded from another state was West Virginia right before the civil War. Counties are also very difficult to switch. You could apply for a township, but it isn't likely and wouldn't mean much at all because State and Federal laws trump local "custom".

You are better off starting a religion if you want to smoke chiba and marry a bunch of ladies.

**xemitg** · 02-20-2008, 18:12

Can't you pretty much do whatever you want on your own property anyways? I mean short of killing somebody. Nobody cares what you do as long as you don't bother your neighbors. If you cause too much commotion, I don't think it matters if you are an independent nation or not; cops will bust down your door.

**Mooks** · 02-20-2008, 20:31

[QUOTE=xemitg]Can't you pretty much do whatever you want on your own property anyways? I mean short of killing somebody. Nobody cares what you do as long as you don't bother your neighbors. QUOTE]

If that was true, then the prisons would be filled with a lot less druggies. (at least in the US)

**LittleGrizzly** · 02-21-2008, 01:54

I don't think it would fly in the U.S. at all. We fought a war because of that. In fact, the only time a state seceded from another state was West Virginia right before the civil War. Counties are also very difficult to switch. You could apply for a township, but it isn't likely and wouldn't mean much at all because State and Federal laws trump local "custom".

I basically brought this up (excluding west virginia) in my argument but they seemed to think being our own town or community meant we could trump national law in matters of personal nature (e.g drugs seatbelts)

thanks for answers, was pretty sure i was right..

**Kralizec** · 02-20-2008, 18:23

Originally Posted by Fragony

I believe they did something like that in Christiana, Denmark. It's sort of a hippy enclave.

Christiana. As far as I know it's just a squatter colony, though.

**Fragony** · 02-20-2008, 18:34

Originally Posted by Fenring

Christiana. As far as I know it's just a squatter colony, though.

No it has a form of half-independance, not as hardcore as what grizzly brings up but there are some differences with the national laws.

**HoreTore** · 02-22-2008, 11:27

Originally Posted by Fragony

No it has a form of half-independance, not as hardcore as what grizzly brings up but there are some differences with the national laws.

Some wiki info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania

As for the OT, it looks like you'll need to find an abandoned military base and break in

**TinCow** · 02-22-2008, 15:15

In most areas of the law (in the US), Federal law trumps State or Local law. This is why you can be arrested for using medical marijuana in California, even if you have a prescription for it. California has legalized marijuana use for medicinal purposes, but Federal law still prohibits it. The DEA regularly raids and prosecutes Californian medical marijuana providers, even though they are licensed and regulated by the State.

About the best you can do is to work within the laws that are reserved exclusively for the States. These are generally restricted to social issues and things necessary for local governance. Even then you have to do it at the State level, as State law trumps Local law. There is no possible way to create your own 'community' in the US that is free from State or Federal law... unless you're a Native American, and even they have a lot of Federal oversight.

As for cops not bothering you if you keep to your own property... that depends on the policies of your local police department. That kind of attitude generally applies more in rural areas than urban ones.

**LittleGrizzly** · 02-22-2008, 15:29

In most areas of the law (in the US), Federal law trumps State or Local law. This is why you can be arrested for using medical marijuana in California, even if you have a prescription for it. California has legalized marijuana use for medicinal purposes, but Federal law still prohibits it. The DEA regularly raids and prosecutes Californian medical marijuana providers, even though they are licensed and regulated by the State.

This sounds like a good example to bring up, Im pretty sure its just going to revert back to, 'yes you can' 'no you cant' ect. though.