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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidrek
    Thats very useful to know. I think that this way I could hold out sieges just about indefinitely. When you get down to only a year or two to go, sally forth and sacrifice a few units of the garrison, particularly ones that are sub optimal and up the clock a bit. You were going to lose them all anyway so what's the harm?
    Indefinitely, I don't know, your army could be totally eliminated eventually?

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    I've encountered situations where a sally didn't work, and it seems like a case of the bigger army "trumping" the smaller one: ie where you sally at the same time as the AI deciding to assault, the assault happens if their army is bigger. It's a similar mechanism to when armies cross a border to attack each other, the larger one succeeds in attacking, the smaller one is forced to defend.
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    I had a frustrating experience last night. I was defending my castle against and army that had decided to storm the garrison. Ther siege engines were destroyed before they couldbreak down a wall, forcing them to take the gates.

    I noticed after a while that even though I had my forces up against the inside walls, so no archer could get a clear shot at them, I still lost troops to crossbow fire. It's like they were shooting through the wall. Anyone know how this works?

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    It's another case of the AI cheating, Heidrek. I've seen it as well, whereas in my case it was arbalesters shooting round corners
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    I haven't noticed it myself but I've heard of this before. I think it's because you're to close to the walls. Move your units a bit back from the wall. Xbows can't shoot in an arc (at least not steep enough to clear the wall and still hit the units inside it).
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    The kill rate was low, I didn't even notice if for a while. I'll try and move them back a bit next time and see if that helps. I also noticed his gunpowder units were damaging my walls very slowly. I think they only ended up doing about 5-10% damage but it did make me wonder - if they were damaging my walls, could this have been what was killing my troops? or does it only matter when the wall actually falls down?

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    Question: what happens if you decide to storm a castle which garrison sallies?

    (I don't want to hear any answer containing the word "swap"!!! )

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    Good question - can't say I know the answer to that one.

    another question - while under siege, do you know what determines the likelihood your province will rebell against the besiegers? Does it's previous loyalty level make a difference? How long it's been yours? there are times when i've needed to keep 1000+ troops besieging a province to prevent it rebelling, yet the AI seems to be able to get away with a few hundred sometimes?

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