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    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/a...ia_cda_warning

    I figured this was more front than backroom material, given how silly it is.. Apparently the Australian Government put up a warning (several years ago) about traveling to Canada on their "Smart Traveller" website. It's ranked in the second safest category, but on a slow news day just a few weeks back that was deemed dangerous enough for an article titled "Australia issues travel warning against Canada; says not as safe as SKorea " to be written.

    Risks taken travelling to Canada include terrorist attacks, earthquakes, "heavy snow, windchill and ice in the winter, and forest fires that can erupt 'at any time.'"

    Countries surprisingly safer than Canada? China, Chile, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Belarus, Romania, South Korea, and Latvia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zim
    Risks taken travelling to Canada include terrorist attacks, earthquakes, "heavy snow, windchill and ice in the winter, and forest fires that can erupt 'at any time.'"


    Terrorist attacks? In CANADA?

    Somehow I don't think we're on top of Al-Queda's hit list.

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    Maybe they think the terrorists will have trouble distinguishing between Canada and the U.S., like some of the people I've met travelling abroad.

    I think they got stuck with that because of some Bin Laden tape that vaguely threatened Canada along with the U.S. and most of Western Europe.

    Didn't Canada send troops to Afghanistan? I seem to recall a Canadian soldier there holding the record for the longest shot made under combat conditions

    The earthquake thing surprised me the most. Well, after the "country is in second safest ranking for travel= news" thing.

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    Terrorist attacks? In CANADA?

    Somehow I don't think we're on top of Al-Queda's hit list.
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    It is a desolate, frozen northern wasteland, filled with unwashed barbarians with bad accents who swill terrible beer (yeah, you heard me!) and rabid polar bears prowling in search of manflesh.

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    Don't worry about terrorists bombing Canada.....
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    I do believe your safety in Canada is directly related to how badly you behave in the Babe Thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zim
    Risks taken travelling to Canada include terrorist attacks, earthquakes, "heavy snow, windchill and ice in the winter, and forest fires that can erupt 'at any time.'"
    What's really cool are the forest fires during heavy snows.

    Some jerk takes the spark arrestor off the muffler of his chainsaw and then starts cutting pine that have been in a drought all summer. The things are tinder dry, the snow doesn't help at all since it's frozen and can't be absorbed. The saw shoots sparks on the branches, the needles catch fire like they're soaked in gas, and the whole tree lights goes up like a torch. The snow barely stops it because the wind fans the flames. And it always spreads if the forest is dense.

    I'll see if I have a pic.
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    What? I thought the only terrorist that would be intrested in attacking canada would be some very very serious /b/tards


    I can imagine the filming of samas next video:

    "And canada's endless supply of infidel maple syrup shall break and turn into a sea of holy fire!"

    "What I thought maple syrup wasnt against the qur'an."

    "IT IS NOW!!!"

    We may never know, perhaps osama's pilots were oringinally targeting the CN Tower, but then they thought: "OH **** Im not going to kill all the tourists and children in there, ok second best the Twin Towers" (They acually said worlds highest office blocks)
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    I knew it, I knew it! Time for a US "peacekeeping" mission. I know we're something like 0 and 3 but we can do it lads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    I knew it, I knew it! Time for a US "peacekeeping" mission. I know we're something like 0 and 3 but we can do it lads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brave_Sir_Robin


    Terrorist attacks? In CANADA?
    Well, there was the FLQ...thirty or so years ago.

    What? I thought the only terrorist that would be intrested in attacking canada would be some very very serious /b/tards
    That was on a This Hour Has 22 Minutes top ten list (might have been Air Farce though, not 100% sure):

    2: Attack Saskatchewan: Nobody would notice.
    EDIT: And I don't think there's been a large earthquake outside of BC for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker
    Somebody hasn't played Fallout 1 and 2.
    No.

    I just know that we need to do it now. We don't attack Canada in less it's the dead of winter. It's tradition!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut
    What's really cool are the forest fires during heavy snows.

    Some jerk takes the spark arrestor off the muffler of his chainsaw and then starts cutting pine that have been in a drought all summer. The things are tinder dry, the snow doesn't help at all since it's frozen and can't be absorbed. The saw shoots sparks on the branches, the needles catch fire like they're soaked in gas, and the whole tree lights goes up like a torch. The snow barely stops it because the wind fans the flames. And it always spreads if the forest is dense.

    I'll see if I have a pic.
    o.O Wow. Are you being sarcastic, or is this for real?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quirinus
    o.O Wow. Are you being sarcastic, or is this for real?
    Sarcastic? Bien non mom ami.

    This is a pic of one of the smaller winter forest fires. If you look closely, you`ll even see the handsome doofus-goofus in the shot warming a slice of moose pizza over the fire. This blaze burnt for hours and took out hundreds of square feet of prime Quebec timberland. It was a disaster of mediocre propotions.

    We Canadians are nothing if not environmental oppotunists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut
    Sarcastic? Bien non mom ami.

    This is a pic of one of the smaller winter forest fires. If you look closely, you`ll even see the handsome doofus-goofus in the shot warming a slice of moose pizza over the fire. This blaze burnt for hours and took out hundreds of square feet of prime Quebec timberland. It was a disaster of mediocre propotions.

    We Canadians are nothing if not environmental oppotunists.

    Please tell me you don't still do the rape-the-land clearcutting. Not that I know we're any better mind you.


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    You know Canada actually consistently has a slightly higher per capita rate of violent crime than the US (Though a much lower murder rate). It's mostly a demographic difference though, and a couple of locals punching each other over the Leaf's latest loss is no reason not to visit.

    As far as the list of safer countries... no comment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses II CP
    You know Canada actually consistently has a slightly higher per capita rate of violent crime than the US (Though a much lower murder rate). It's mostly a demographic difference though, and a couple of locals punching each other over the Leaf's latest loss is no reason not to visit.

    As far as the list of safer countries... no comment.

    They have hockey, we have guns. I can't imagine armed hockey players though.


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    Assuming the stuff I learned in college a couple years ago is still current, they have a rather higher rape rate as well. I was also told that England's violent crime rate is higher than the U.S.'s, but again fewer murders.

    I guess when American criminals decide to be violent, they go all out.

    Beirut Well, if you're going to burn down half a forest, you might as well get something out of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses II CP
    You know Canada actually consistently has a slightly higher per capita rate of violent crime than the US (Though a much lower murder rate). It's mostly a demographic difference though, and a couple of locals punching each other over the Leaf's latest loss is no reason not to visit.

    As far as the list of safer countries... no comment.

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    The statistical differences between the US and Canada serve mostly (IMHO) to demonstrate the limited utility of comparing nations on those grounds. Studies that control for the essential demographic differences between the coutries (Specifically Canada's population is still largely located in rural areas, while the US's is increasingly urban) tend to even out the differential quite a lot, as you might expect. It's interesting the bits of info you pick up frequenting pro/con gun boards.

    Anyway, it's pretty funny that these days if you want to find the 'Main Street USA' the History Channel seems to pine for you'll have much more luck in Canada.


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    Really? I know gun crime in the U.S. is heavily concentrated in cities but I'd always gotten the (possibly erroneous) impression that Even Canada's inner cities are safer than ours.

    We have a Main Street like that in the semi rural town I live in. If the History Channel comes to film it they better leave the camera unfocused, so as to hide that the quaint little shops are falling apart. And then there are all the homeless people, and the fact the economy is based largely on meth production and social program payments from the surprisingly large number of people with "bad backs". If only it really were idyllic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramses II CP
    The statistical differences between the US and Canada serve mostly (IMHO) to demonstrate the limited utility of comparing nations on those grounds. Studies that control for the essential demographic differences between the coutries (Specifically Canada's population is still largely located in rural areas, while the US's is increasingly urban) tend to even out the differential quite a lot, as you might expect. It's interesting the bits of info you pick up frequenting pro/con gun boards.

    Anyway, it's pretty funny that these days if you want to find the 'Main Street USA' the History Channel seems to pine for you'll have much more luck in Canada.

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    You guys are all missing the obvious. What if the zombie apocalypse starts in Canada? And what if the Ozzies know something we don't?

    Our peaceful northern neighbor won't seem so idyllic when it's overrun by flesh-eating undead, let me tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    I can't imagine armed hockey players though.
    I suggested it once. It didn't catch on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    They have hockey, we have guns. I can't imagine armed hockey players though.
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...l,%20Brittanie


    Hockey is dangerous if there are Norwegian players on the ice, but as has been mentioned earlier, the webpage is outdated - there are currently no Norwegian ice hockey players in North America.

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    Well, if video games have taught me anything, it's that shotguns and/or headshots are the best way to deal with hockey playing zombies, so I'll be prepared.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    You guys are all missing the obvious. What if the zombie apocalypse starts in Canada? And what if the Ozzies know something we don't?

    Our peaceful northern neighbor won't seem so idyllic when it's overrun by flesh-eating undead, let me tell you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    Please tell me you don't still do the rape-the-land clearcutting. Not that I know we're any better mind you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zim
    Really? I know gun crime in the U.S. is heavily concentrated in cities but I'd always gotten the (possibly erroneous) impression that Even Canada's inner cities are safer than ours.

    We have a Main Street like that in the semi rural town I live in. If the History Channel comes to film it they better leave the camera unfocused, so as to hide that the quaint little shops are falling apart. And then there are all the homeless people, and the fact the economy is based largely on meth production and social program payments from the surprisingly large number of people with "bad backs". If only it really were idyllic.
    Actually that's part of what I was trying to convey; Canadian cities, in general, are safer and much less densely populated than US cities. Most of the violent crime in Canadia is rural crime, the kind of Jim Bob and Billy Joe havin' a disagreement down at the Watering Hole deal.

    I grew up in the deep South, not even in the one traffic light town that was nearby, named, as funny as it may sound, Homer. Main Street holds no charm for me. My family still mostly lives there, a counsin raises pigs, my father cows, an uncle mostly weeds (Yay farm subsidies!), all within a few miles of each other. I can't ding it too much, but I wouldn't go back either.

    Anyway, the point was, Canada's small ball governments are well funded enough, and their population homogenous enough, to allow for some of that old fashioned Main Street madness. More power to 'em, but this too shall pass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brave_Sir_Robin


    Terrorist attacks? In CANADA?

    Somehow I don't think we're on top of Al-Queda's hit list.
    Maybe unsafe to travel after all

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    Blame Canada!
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    Pfft, the Travel warning is a marketing ploy to 'sex up' Canada. Make it look cool and dangerous. The warning has been there for several years and the amount of Australian tourists have been climbing. Over 200,000 last year or 1% of the population of Australia fly almost half way around the globe to visit Canada.
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    Canada... an ambiguous block of Semi Autonomous Nation-States, waving the Blood Stained Maple Leaf of a repressive, Socialist, and Partially French Speaking, Agenda... We have much to fear from them.

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