I wasn't expecting much. I've played mtw and liked it but didn't get to involved in it, but when I played shogun I was pleasantly suprised. Even though the campaign doesn't have much to it I still felt somewhat involved. I think the movies definetely make up for a lot. I did have one question though. I read the dutch show up eventually and don't require you to build a christian church. Now I've had the portugese show up, but when do the dutch show up.