Is Ricky a sex offender?

**LittleGrizzly** · 02-28-2008, 13:31

Uh-huh. And I stick to my opinion that they are nonetheless always recognisable for their age - in looks and behaviour. Believe me, I have known girls of a similar age who pretended to be older than they were, but I have never known anyone falling for it (wheter they went on to ignore the age is another matter...).

I remember being 10-11 and there was this girl in my class at school who was just under 6 feet tall, i remember her talking one day about going to the cinema and getting in for a 15, cinemas aren't too strict on ages but they would have turned down a 10 year old.

When i was getting to the age of about 16 lots of my friends where going out to pubs drinking and i knew a girl who had been going out to pubs and clubs since she was at least 15 (maybe even 14) she could act quite mature at times (other times she would show her age) i would say you have to spend a decent time with most girls before thier actions betrays thier age

**Xiahou** · 02-28-2008, 15:42

Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

When i was getting to the age of about 16 lots of my friends where going out to pubs drinking and i knew a girl who had been going out to pubs and clubs since she was at least 15 (maybe even 14) she could act quite mature at times (other times she would show her age) i would say you have to spend a decent time with most girls before thier actions betrays thier age

The moral of the story is: get to know someone before you sleep with them.

**Geoffrey S** · 02-28-2008, 15:45

Originally Posted by Xiahou

The moral of the story is: get to know someone before you sleep with them.

Seconded, and not only because of problems like the above.

**LittleGrizzly** · 02-28-2008, 16:19

well how long should someone wait to be on the safe side ?

You've got to consider that to alot of young people sex is a recreational activity, most young people go out drinking hoping to have sex, should someone be punished because they sleep with someone the first night they meet them

**Xiahou** · 02-28-2008, 17:05

Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

You've got to consider that to alot of young people sex is a recreational activity, most young people go out drinking hoping to have sex, should someone be punished because they sleep with someone the first night they meet them

Yes? If not by the law, they may certainly get punished by getting a nice STD or an unplanned pregnancy. Sex certainly can be recreational- but it is never soley recreational, no matter how much people would like it to be otherwise. There can always be life-altering consequences and it's a mistake to take it lightly.

**LittleGrizzly** · 02-28-2008, 17:24

Yes? If not by the law, they may certainly get punished by getting a nice STD or an unplanned pregnancy.

well an unplanned pregnancy or an std are things the goverment as much as the individuals involved try to avoid and mostly aren't wished on people, whereas a case like this is the goverment making a consequence from an action that previously had no punishment.

Other than asking for I.D there are going to be girls who look and act a few years above thier age, so should people who enjoy sex and go out to get it be punished by the state on top of the risks they already endure.

**Xiahou** · 02-28-2008, 18:34

Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

Other than asking for I.D there are going to be girls who look and act a few years above thier age, so should people who enjoy sex and go out to get it be punished by the state on top of the risks they already endure.

If they break the law in doing so, yes. Most laws on the matter are quite explicit in stating that ignorance of the age is not an excuse. By the letter of the law, he deserved some punishment. As I've said- taking the story at face value -I don't think he deserves to be listed as a sex offender for life. But, as I've also said, seeing as how it was an aggravated crime and they decided to try him as an adult, I have some serious doubts about the story as presented.

**Geoffrey S** · 02-28-2008, 20:34

Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

well an unplanned pregnancy or an std are things the goverment as much as the individuals involved try to avoid and mostly aren't wished on people, whereas a case like this is the goverment making a consequence from an action that previously had no punishment.

If someone's going to have sex with another after only a night, possibly inebriated, then I don't think they're doing their best to avoid the risks. This can be illustrated by illness, pregnancy, and by the subject of this topic. As far as I'm concerned it's always about trust, something you just can't gain in the blink of an eye.

**KukriKhan** · 03-02-2008, 23:59

Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

well how long should someone wait to be on the safe side ?

You've got to consider that to alot of young people sex is a recreational activity, most young people go out drinking hoping to have sex, should someone be punished because they sleep with someone the first night they meet them

Indeed. This "Reckless Romeo" will have fathered 7 kids at age 21 (starting when he was 13 - obviously a recreational activity)... that UK taxpayers will enjoy paying for, for the next 20 years.

Mr Macdonald said he did not want to have any more children and that his mother has strong views about the situation.

He said: "My mum's not happy about all these kids.

"She tells me to pack it in and keep it in my trousers."

Maybe she'll buy him that Nintendo now, to divert his recreational/creational urges.