There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
I'm not going to condemn her.While there, he passed his victim's mother in the street and allegedly taunted her about the attack. He is said to have called out "How's your daughter?", before heading into a crowded bar.
Shortly after, the woman walked into the bar, poured a bottle of petrol over Soriano and lit a match. She watched as the flames engulfed him, before walking out.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Her actions were wrong but i can more than understand the motivation...
Somewhat half heartedly condeming...
In remembrance of our great Admin Tosa Inu, A tireless worker with the patience of a saint. As long as I live I will not forget you. Thank you for everything!
I 'spose it makes a change from ordering a sambuca.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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I have no sympathy or mercy for rapists. That woman did the right thing, and she should be set free.
What the...
If he said he was sorry then ok, I would have some sympathy for the guy but you don't taunt her.
My guess, he is one of those guys that never learn and would no doubt raped another woman once he got out of prison.
Good riddance.
Hmmm, you can't pick or choose the laws you want to follow. You either have them or have none. I can understand her motivation, and frustration. I don't know the law system there, but I'd be surprised if it didn't mess up her life at least a little bit more.
#Hillary4prism
BD:TW
Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra
Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
She should've done this here. She would not have seen a cell.
Your allowed to murder people who taunt you about a felony they commited against you or yours... ?
Yes you can...that's what she did.
She can choose whether or not to follow the rules but we cannot, we* must follow the rules we decide despite the fact the person was a nasty piece of work...
*the state...
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In remembrance of our great Admin Tosa Inu, A tireless worker with the patience of a saint. As long as I live I will not forget you. Thank you for everything!
My guess she probably just gets a few months in a psych-ward and then released, if even that.
Seem like the standard european punishment especially if judging from the article is true, that she suffered mental problems because of what happened to her daughter.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Exactly, if she goes to trial and is not convicted/convicted lightly then the law has been served. But, if she is convicted, she can't mope around and complain, she has to deal with it.
Anyway, I hear an "insanity" plea coming along. Bleugh.
Thanks, LG for clearing up that ambiguity.
#Hillary4prism
BD:TW
Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra
Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts
I somewhat disapprove. Burning rapists is best left to the state.
Depending on the taunts, if it were done here I think she would have seen a cell.
Some things don't add up for me
-"how's your daughter?" is pretty far from being a taunt unless asked sarcastically, maniacally, etc you get my point which brings me to
-who witnessed the taunt?
I'm not defending the rapist, but its entirely possible this was premeditated and "he taunted me" was something she concocted, especially if she was notified in advance of his being on leave.
It's pretty rich they just cross paths like that. Either he was going out of his way to be around and make them uneasy, or she was stalking him. A decade in jail, he goes on leave, and they pass on the street....
Can't speak for Spain, but People in the US are exonerated for wrongful convictions of rape and murder every few months it seems. If everyone enacted their own victims revenge I think more than a few folks would be wrongfully killed or maimed and the real truth never found out, although exoneration and finding the real criminal are mutually exclusive. Acts of revenge also ruins lives
So while I'm not defending this guy and hope he suffered for his misdeeds, especially if he taunted her, it sets bad precedent if she is just allowed to walk.
Baby Quit Your Cryin' Put Your Clown Britches On!!!
While I understand what this woman did and why she did it - it isn't for her to carry out justice. That is what the court system is for.
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
I would not have the heart to punish the woman for what she did, even if it was technically illegal.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Oh yeah ?
I thought we had laws and all that precisely to prevent this kind of things.
Now, I won't say I don't understand her. If what were being told is true (that's a big 'if'), then I would probably have done/wanted to do the same thing. Still, that's murder, and she ought to face justice and to be brought before a court.
Why am i humming "Chessnuts roasting on an open fire"?
RIP Tosa
A real tragedy.
That the rapist survived, that is....
D'oh! How'd I miss that? He didn't live. Nevermind!
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I hope she rots for a long time in a cell.
If you havin' skyrim problems I feel bad for you son.. I dodged 99 arrows but my knee took one.
VENI, VIDI, NATES CALCE CONCIDI
I came, I saw, I kicked ass
The law is the law...
...Create a precedent and then you will have to release vigilantes that killed people for insignificant reasons.
Once again this is a society failing. Justice was not served and this forced the mother's hand. If the justice system worked then the guy would still be in jail (9 years is not enough and he shouldn't be allowed to return anywhere close to his vistim) and the mother wouldn't. Now it should be jail for both of them, harsh as it may be.
Something though does not add up. If that person was jailed for 9 years in 1998 then why should he be released on a 3 day pass. He should have been released in 2007...Has anyone checked this story for validity?
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"So what are you in for?"
"I lit someone on fire."
I kiss the ground she walks on and shall honour her forever.Originally Posted by article
And if it's wrong what she did, I pray to God to take his avenge on my soul and grant this woman a place in heaven in my stead, for I desire neither a worldy nor a heavenly justice that considers me innocent and this mother guilty.
He who does evil things will have it roll back on him,
And he will not know what hit him.
Mockery and abuse come back on an arrogant man,
And vengence lies in wait for him like a lion.
Sirach 27:27-28
If I killed the guy who (hypothetically) raped my daughter - as I would be extremely tempted to do - I'd expect to suffer the full force of the law, however reluctantly applied by a sympathetic jury.
But I'd be standing tall when the judge pronounced sentence.
Be well. Do good. Keep in touch.
If I killed the guy who (hypothetically) raped my daughter - as I would be extremely tempted to do - I'd expect to suffer the full force of the law, however reluctantly applied by a sympathetic jury.
But I'd be standing tall when the judge pronounced sentence.
I agree with this completely. We cannot allow vigilantism, quite simply the more you allow people to take the law into thier own hands the more and more justice becomes blind and retarded*
*best ever case in point some severly under educated group of vigilantees went paedophile hunting, when they got to a paeditricians office/shop. I can't remember if they beat the guy trashed the place or what but the point is we cannot trust the average citizen to carry out justice...
Also we use the system innocent until proven guilty, i don't see potential vigilantees to be quite so just...
With all this said...
If it was my daughter (and especially because she has had mental health problems ever since) i would have probably wanted to kill the guy as well. This doesn't mean there should be no punishment for the actions, though to be honest if i was the one giving out sentencing it would be a very light punishment...
In remembrance of our great Admin Tosa Inu, A tireless worker with the patience of a saint. As long as I live I will not forget you. Thank you for everything!
As a husband/son/brother/eventual father myself, I'd have a very hard time convicting you for your actions.
On one hand, we are a nation of laws and they are there (mostly) for the betterment of society.
On the other, I can't imagine what I'd do if someone did something to someone in my family like that.
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but isn't that the father's job?
What kind of a man makes his wife go into a bar and set someone on fire, then apologizes for the man's death.
Couldn't he at least have called up his cousin with a pig farm, or something?
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