Hello, my name is Ibrahim, a player of the mod in question-and it is awesome to play (no CTD's strangely), and with decently accurate romans, persians, and "barbarii"


and I'm here to constructively debate about the treatment of my fellow Arabs in Invasio barbarorum: Flagellum dei. it mostly considers the weapons used and their effectiveness (oh, and berbers didn't fight or look much like arabs, more like numidians, check EB for general appearance, with roman influence(yes I know it's 600 yrs early-hence WITH roman influence)) :

A-Arab swordsman: the sword used on the mod is from the 9-10th century AD on, not the 1-9th centuries AD . the origional type was a sword like a spatha in shape, but some what shorter in size, used for both slashing and stabing. I base this one on several sources:1-the attached picture from http://www.myarmoury.com:
(yes I know it is 12th century AD), and the curved sword is a turkic design, from the tribes that converted to Islam at the said time. and common sense should dictate the sword design be straight: the romani to the north used straight swords, and so did the persians, (and ethiopeans?), and arabs were known to employ mostly tech from these people (roman-ish weapons, persian armor), the turks living thousands of miles away, and unknown to Arabs till the mid 7th century AD. oh and the swords would be like spathae in stats, the warrior being naturals at war (you have a people fight for 40 yrs in a minor war alone-see what happens)
2-Osprey (or similar book-wished I remember title)publishings on yarmuk: i know, kind of cliched but they said the same as I did
3-www.wikipedia.org-again may be innacurate but the sight part on swords is quite good-I know from comparing with library books.

B-Arab archers: there is good evidence that composite bows were used (or less shitty bow at least); there is also evidence from Yarmuk in 639 AD that they were capable of handling roman bowman and winning, albeit with many casualties. (europa barbarorum arrived at the bow shape-check it out at www.europabarbarorum.com)-their bows should be like those of the raiders-devastaing..

C-Arab spearman: there is evidence for a shield wall tactic-it's hard to survive infantry attacks from enemies (like dhat al-salasil) and come out with fewish losses sine shield wall (low out of 18000, against 2-30000 persians with heavy casualties suffered by the sassanids, or the battle of walaja (wikipedia for results) and of course dhi Qar in 613 AD (pre islamic-no "fanaticism")
and arab elite infantry were most likely armored in a chain hauberk, not scale under silk-same for the lancers (though optional- most were relatively unarmoured)

D-NO JAVELINMEN(old & young warriors): the account of uhud indicates this was mostly associated with ethiopeans, not arabs (hamza ibn abd Al-muttalib's death).


so I ask that someone remake the swordsman, archers, and infantry more along with the abovementioned evidence (don't believe me-check out the sources; don't want that-just do it for me), and send them for downloading so all can have try-with the new stats please and if anyone wants to argue-go right ahead I'm open to debate.