Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[Esooa]

I just got out of bed to go eat with my dad so I'm not gonna post much. anyways

vote: dya

[Arapocalypse]

I think that TWTBAW is whack to attach to Monty this early into the game, but a lot of other people were straight up scumreading him mainly from his entrance so imo it's kinda w/e. Felt he's been standard fare and just generally fine thus far, and really haven't seen anything compelling to scumread him for from anyone imo. I can get thinking the posts vibed poorly at least, but it's standard fare Monty

Hmm, okay; for what it's worth I only really held the TWTBAW-type read for his very early-game entrance posts around SoD, but actually did like his later re-entry into the thread, thought it was decent!!!

[Maple]

Excellent.

I see that you are a blogger now, ara.

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #1083

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)

Not Voting: Maple

[Maple]

All the village reads I like are for terrible reasons, and the wolf leans I have are not really existent.

Not vibing with the VC, but I wouldn't be surprised if theres a hit somewhere in italics

[Maple]

no cap cscarg's sig is too distracting for me to truly absorb his posts

i wish i was joking

[Montmorency]

Vote: Rask

for now

Wagons:

Rask:
+ Decent D1 arguments against Amp, flip has much assoc equity
- Traditionally subs get a reprieve, and content-wise I've never had anything against Amp

Csargo:
+ Not a bad wagon makeup, decent arguments against on paper
- I want to ISO Star Trek D1 for the complete picture on Csargo, present it for D2, also I like to give Csargo a break
0 vig candidate

Dyachei: GH has it right that the dyachei push is the amy push but less of everything

I did look over dya and I'm not sure why people want to yeet there. Is there something I'm missing here? I feel like dya's approach to the game is more townie than not imo. I feel like there's a lot of points where they could have easily acquiesced to requests, but just sort of did their own thing. Is that just something they'd do as either alignment? I don't feel like it's that bad honestly. I guess a lot of people have dya in their PoE, but I don't know if they're serious reads or just putting dya in a box for activity/effort/etc reasons.

My instinct with this kind of post, where are top wagon mildly defends another top wagon, is that if Csargo is scum dyachei has a high probability of being anti-spewed (i.e. not paired).

Interestingly, Rask/Amp is doing the same near above this post. Grapes are fermenting.



LEANS

NEUTRAL (not null)
Dolb
Sunbae

TOWN
--66%
Ara
Hally

NULL
CL
Visor
Cuth
Eph
GH

Maple
Esoo
Manasi

dya
Amy
Csargo

SCUM
Zelda
--33%

[ColonelLubriderm]

i am present

[Maple]

Vote: GeneralHankerchief

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[Maple]

i am present

hows it going

whats your opinion on mascarpone

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #1090

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)
4 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief, Montmorency)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)

1 GeneralHankerchief (Maple)
1 pzelda (Dolby)

[Ephemeral]

how does montmorency have almost the entire playerlist in nulls

[Maple]

feeling cute might enlist myself as sunbae's minion

[ColonelLubriderm]

hows it going

whats your opinion on mascarpone

hard pass

[Maple]

how does montmorency have almost the entire playerlist in nulls

i think a more fun question is why are 40% of their reads 3p reads

[Arapocalypse]

I started by Visor because I wanted to read his case on Dya, after we talked about it itt. And also because he implied I would have to fight back on D2, I wanted to check out if I could see what pinged him.
mafia-indicative of Dya: dunno really. About Dya I mean. But it's not uncommon for scums to pick a weird thing and pack it to make it look an acceptable case. The least I can say is that I am not sold on it, but we reacted very differently at Esooa's post and I am wondering if it's AI.

why wouldn't mafia just not check it out, in the same position? I am puzzled if this is a real question tbh (first time we play together so I'll give in :p). Why would mafia do it? To look townie? Above all the unnecesary attention and questions it will raise? I mean scums will want to push stuff and fake others but that tiny bit of derping won't save them if the whole picture is bad. Maybe some will have fun doing it, but I think most won't do it.

I can relate about the votecount but "c'est la vie".

So, did you derive anything interesting from that venture into Visor/dya? Also, what's your current read on them anyway? If you're saving this for ISOs feel free to ignore, though there's only 24 minutes left!!!

I mean, let's say that mafia actually forgot the fake reasoning that they did... do you think it is entirely impossible that they wouldn't just tell the truth and say that they forgot? It's not that difficult to do and I'm not really sure why you're ruling out that they could have just forgotten, with it not necessarily being something that was intentionally done on the part of mafia, just can be something that happens!

People forget things all the time regardless of alignment, is my point!!

Yeah I know, just minor griping; ignore me!! :p

[Montmorency]

how does montmorency have almost the entire playerlist in nulls

There's null-null, TL-null, and SL-null. I provided some % as boundaries. Make more sense?

[Arapocalypse]

Excellent.

I see that you are a blogger now, ara.

It was a mistake!!!!! I don't understand why that's a thing/how it happened!!!!

[Dolby]

ngl I was hoping monty would keep his vote and the environment would cause people to re-ev the 2 vote wagons/pzelda

[Ephemeral]

There's null-null, TL-null, and SL-null. I provided some % as boundaries. Make more sense?

a.. little bit yeah

[Maple]

don't really like this at all. Most strongly because of the way Manti uses my post count and having "read and reread" the game was justification for this while not caring about the context of that. Such as my reread being specifically done because I didn't have any wolf reads that felt comfortable.

How are those things related to my feelings on the matter? My feelings amount, largely, to feeling that you just BSd a w read on my slot with little good justification pulling only from the earliest portion of my ISO for reasons that, ultimately, are paper thin.

I'm too tired to say much more on the matter lol

[Ephemeral]

i think a more fun question is why are 40% of their reads 3p reads

sk hunt

x-files theme plays

[Dolby]

sk hunt

x-files theme plays

Monty thinks theres 11 sks and he's right

[Maple]

You're not thinking about this like a Roman. Imagine you're Imperator Scipio facing down the horde's of the encroaching Hannibal. You don't beat mountaineering elephants with brute force, you use tactics. You need to divide and conquer. Like at the battle of Limpus Gladiores, they drew in the Elephant Calvary to the center of the field while the Roman phalanx pincered them on either side striking their knees with arrows and other sharp bits. It is through tactics like these the Romans one. And how does this apply to Ephemeral you ask? simple, you see in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table

me skim post

why gh thanking his own post?

fuck me

[Ephemeral]

Monty thinks theres 11 sks and he's right

yes we are now playing eimm

[ColonelLubriderm]

me skim post

why gh thanking his own post?

fuck me

excellent

[Ephemeral]

How are those things related to my feelings on the matter? My feelings amount, largely, to feeling that you just BSd a w read on my slot with little good justification pulling only from the earliest portion of my ISO for reasons that, ultimately, are paper thin.

I'm too tired to say much more on the matter lol

bronana your iso is about as paper thin as it gets

what else are you expecting?

[GeneralHankerchief]

no cap cscarg's sig is too distracting for me to truly absorb his posts

i wish i was joking

[Esooa]

How are those things related to my feelings on the matter? My feelings amount, largely, to feeling that you just BSd a w read on my slot with little good justification pulling only from the earliest portion of my ISO for reasons that, ultimately, are paper thin.

I'm too tired to say much more on the matter lol

it relates to what you said would have been the reason I have weak wolf reads

[Dolby]

I got burned hard by Csargo in Zelda's game with items and more than 17 players that was themed on some board game (tbh I kinda purged it from memory), but the two prior games that he scummed that I witnessed (one game I was town, the other maf) I felt that he was pretty obvious. Didn't really engage with people and just gave takes seemingly for the purpose of giving takes unless he was specifically asked about something. Haven't played with him or really noticed him in a game in a while, and I respect the differences brought up by GH and others but this feels overall more like town him than scum him in my experience