French army falling apart, documents show

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

No, see that's the point. Having a military won't do even a tiny bit of difference to the outcome. The best we can do, is a guerrilla war.

Like Fragony said, if a country is so naive as to believe that it doesn't need a military, one day it will pay. You cannot predict the future, so it is always best to be prepared.

[Sarmatian]

and murder nearby forests.

Greenpeace is already forming special guerrilla forces to deal with those forest-murdering Russians... They are not just a threat to the population but native flora as well.

[HoreTore]

Sorry Hore but ... did you hear me. Guerrilla works when enemy does not want kill all population.
If Russia invade Norway - they would surround you, take your capitulation, send to special camps and murder into <happy now Sarmatian !!!!>nearby forests. All of you - men, women and children. After this guerrilla war will be perfomed by .... elks.

There is no other option, Krook, that's the point.

Not that I'm accepting your claim that the russkies will murder 4,8 million people though... I hear the Georgians are still alive

Like Fragony said, if a country is so naive as to believe that it doesn't need a military, one day it will pay. You cannot predict the future, so it is always best to be prepared.

Gah! Seriously, am I talking to a brick wall here, or what?

I'm not saying we don't need an army because we won't get invaded. I'm saying we don't need an army because it won't matter.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'm not saying we don't need an army because we won't get invaded. I'm saying we don't need an army because it won't matter.

It always matters. You always have a chance. And you don't know who will attack. For all you know, in fifty years the Finns or Swedes could be knocking at the door of Oslo. Unlikely, yes, but it could happen. Be prepared.

[KarlXII]

It always matters. You always have a chance. And you don't know who will attack. For all you know, in fifty years the Finns or Swedes could be knocking at the door of Oslo. Unlikely, yes, but it could happen. Be prepared.

Shut up!

[Fragony]

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I'm not saying we don't need an army because we won't get invaded. I'm saying we don't need an army because it won't matter.

You need an army so invading wouldn't be worth the trouble.

[JR-]

edited in the name of niceness. :)

[Tribesman]

You need an army so invading wouldn't be worth the trouble.

What you mean like Poland or France in 39/40 , or Norway perhaps , maybe Holland and Belgium too ?
What about S. Vietnam , they had an army didn't they , just like Iraq did as did Georgia ?

So what you really must mean Frag is that you need an army that is so big and so powerful , permanantly at the ready at great expense with all the latest gadgets and constanty upgraded defences that invading wouldn't be worth the trouble .
Or as Hore correctly says ..... bugger that for a laugh why not spend the money on better things , or maybe as Swedishfish so eloquently put it .

[Fragony]

So what you really must mean Frag is that you need an army that is so big and so powerful , permanantly at the ready at great expense with all the latest gadgets and constanty upgraded defences that invading wouldn't be worth the trouble .

Yep, that's basicly what I am saying.

[HoreTore]

why not spend the money on better things

[Fragony]

Things like

[Vladimir]

Things like

Buying votes, silly.

Oh wait, I meant to say: Shut up!

That's the new standard for excellence here.

[PBI]

I'm pretty sure SwedishFish's "Shut up!" was more a "Shut up, you're giving away the secret Swedish plan to get Norway to disband its armed forces leaving it helpless in the face of the planned Swedish invasion", rather than a "Shut up, your post was stupid".

Am I the only one who got it? Well, I ed anyway.

[Fragony]

That's the new standard for excellence here.

Appeared to be joke I dunno

edit beaten to it why do they do that?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'm pretty sure SwedishFish's "Shut up!" was more a "Shut up, you're giving away the secret Swedish plan to get Norway to disband its armed forces leaving it helpless in the face of the planned Swedish invasion", rather than a "Shut up, your post was stupid".

Am I the only one who got it? Well, I ed anyway.

I took it that way as well.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I'm pretty sure SwedishFish's "Shut up!" was more a "Shut up, you're giving away the secret Swedish plan to get Norway to disband its armed forces leaving it helpless in the face of the planned Swedish invasion", rather than a "Shut up, your post was stupid".

Am I the only one who got it? Well, I ed anyway.

To quote Swedishfish: Shhh, quiet...


I've fallen for the trap too: the written word is more direct, sounds harsher than the spoken word. The quick joke, some random nonsense, is easily mistaken for an aggressive verbal slur. It just happens. Between the writer and reader something is lost in translation.

[KrooK]

Not that I'm accepting your claim that the russkies will murder 4,8 million people though... I hear the Georgians are still alive

Ohh yes and you check Czeczenia. 50% of civizents "disappeared". And they are officially citizens of Russia...

[Tribesman]

Ohh yes and you check Czeczenia. 50% of civizents "disappeared". And they are officially citizens of Russia...

[Husar]

I've fallen for the trap too: the written word is more direct, sounds harsher than the spoken word. The quick joke, some random nonsense, is easily mistaken for an aggressive verbal slur. It just happens. Between the writer and reader something is lost in translation.

Really makes you wonder why people keep reading books, doesn't it?

[Sarmatian]

Really makes you wonder why people keep reading books, doesn't it?

That's why I only watch movies. All education one needs. Without them, I wouldn't know that Superman is a wuss when exposed to kryptonite....

[Viking]

Things like

Giving them back to the tax payers.

[Meneldil]

Sorry Hore but ... did you hear me. Guerrilla works when enemy does not want kill all population.
If Russia invade Norway - they would surround you, take your capitulation, send to special camps and murder into <happy now Sarmatian !!!!>nearby forests. All of you - men, women and children. After this guerrilla war will be perfomed by .... elks.

These russians are really evil :-o

Here I was thinking my former russian girldfriend was an human being just like me, while in fact she's nothing but a baby eating monster. Crazy stuff.

[Sarmatian]

These russians are really evil :-o

Here I was thinking my former russian girldfriend was an human being just like me, while in fact she's nothing but a baby eating monster. Crazy stuff.

That's why she's former right? You've seen her try to eat a baby after she murdered a forest?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Crazy stuff.

Œuf Corse it is. Forget about the beauffoon. (Y'all work that one out - need two languanges for that)

This thread should've been fun. Vladimir opened with a delicious find to start some friendly banter. Several posters tried a serious discussion too. Then it went quickly downhill. Gah, I can read YouTube commentary for that level of discussion, with the added bonus of a video playing on top of the screen.

[KarlXII]

I'm pretty sure SwedishFish's "Shut up!" was more a "Shut up, you're giving away the secret Swedish plan to get Norway to disband its armed forces leaving it helpless in the face of the planned Swedish invasion", rather than a "Shut up, your post was stupid".

Ummmm....uhhhhh....yeah.....it was the latter? Yeah.....the latter......

[Sarmatian]

Œuf Corse it is. Forget about the beauffoon. (Y'all work that one out - need two languanges for that)

This thread should've been fun. Vladimir opened with a delicious find to start some friendly banter. Several posters tried a serious discussion too. Then it went quickly downhill. Gah, I can read YouTube commentary for that level of discussion, with the added bonus of a video playing on top of the screen.

Apart from Brenus' insight that French army is indeed in need of a reorganisation, I don't think there's much more to say. And krook sometimes begs for it. But, I have indeed made some stupid and unnecessary remarks, if you meant me. Sorry about that.

[Meneldil]

No prob Sarmatian. Just make sure that there's no baby eating russian monster under your bed.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Thank you Louis, for a final flourish of style.

I believe this thread has run its course.