Preview: The Lugiones

[Imperator Invictus]

the Carpians or Bastarnae were much more interesting than the Lugiones

[cmacq]

the Carpians or Bastarnae were much more interesting than the Lugiones

For EB2 the Bastarnae are initially considered an early aspect of the Lugiones confederation. In turn, the Carpi are considered an Thracian element included within the Bastarnae once they're established in Moldova.

[stratigos vasilios]

Is that your way of confirming the Bastarnae as a faction in EBII?

[Arjos]

I think what cmacq was saying is that the Bastarnae, at the EB's start date, were still part of the Lugiones and didn't settle yet near the Carpathians...

[stratigos vasilios]

Yeah I figured as much, here's hoping that they are in though!

[Atraphoenix]

splendid...

[adishee]

Looks awesome, can't wait. You guys need anything?; soda, hot towel, anything to ensure soon release?

[cmacq]

We're looking for a few good 3D/texture artists to join EB2 to things like this...

Toutāginoi command team

to put in the game

[cmacq]

We're looking for a few good 3D/texture artists to join the EB2 team to do things like this...

This will provide an idea of the level of research that went into each unit

Early Toutāginoi unit

Late Toutāginoi unit

[cmacq]

We're looking for a few good 3D/texture artists to join the EB2 team to finish stuff like this...

Moldoi

[cmacq]

We're looking for a few good 3D/texture artists to join EB2 to finish things like this...

Early Koroi

Late Koroi

[cmacq]

We're looking for a few good 3D/texture artists to join EB2 to finish things like this...

Nokwlentoi

[cmacq]

We're looking for a few good 3D/texture artists to join EB2 to finish things like this...

Late General

[cmacq]

We're looking for a few good 3D/texture artists to join the EB2 team to finish the faces of the Lugiones...

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

And to do 3D/texture work for all the other factions as well...

[Gustave]

We're looking for a few good 3D/texture artists to join EB2 to things like this...

Toutāginoi command team

to put in the game

As far as I know Alin and I already made the officer and the standard bearer was almost done.

[Tux]

As far as I know Alin and I already made the officer and the standard bearer was almost done.

It was done in fact.
Maybe some little touches...

[stratigos vasilios]

Hey Alin! Haven't seen you posting in awhile, good to see you! I tried to follow a link Bobbin put up at the twcenter which directed you to the art of skinning/modelling but by the time I learn it EBIII will be under construction...

[cmacq]

As far as I know Alin and I already made the officer and the standard bearer was almost done.

Just don’t have anything for display, an action figure per se.

[Mediolanicus]

I just thought I'd bring this post to cmacq's attention:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...79#post8712879

[cmacq]

I just thought I'd bring this post to cmacq's attention:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...79#post8712879

I wondered how long it would take before someone saw that. Apparently, I disagree. For good reason, this is in part, why it took so long to finish the Lugiones faction, and why is been presented in such detail.

[Mediolanicus]

By all means, if you find the time for it, elaborate on that. I am interested!

[cmacq]

This will all be addressed in great detail in upcoming releases.

Anyone who has a skill and wants to join the EB II team, please go here...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053225545

[Olaf The Great]

So this faction is basically badass Poland? (Yes I know, but still)

[cmacq]

No not really, but what do you know about the 'whys' and 'wherefores' of the Bellum Germanicum.' Better known overall as the
'Marcomannic Wars' they took place between AD 162 and 180 and were roughly coeval with the Antonine Plague. Between the plague and war about 7-8 million people died on both sides. Of these around five million died just of the plague in Roman territory alone. This also marks the first time a barbarian army had entered Italy since the Crimbri migration. Some had said that the Roman army and economy never fully recovered from this war. The point is that the Romans were fighting against Both Swabian and Lugian tribes. However we now know that the better armed and largest number were coming from southern Poland. A huge iron mining area and weapon industry had developed there. In fact within 350 years the area around Krakow had literally turned into what could be called the 'Arsenal of Free-Germania.' Although the 'Marcomannic Wars' are beyond the scope of the EB2 time frame the process had start in the late La Tene period. It seems that the only thing lacking was leadership.

[Julianus]

Impressive...to say the least.

[Fluvius Camillus]

Hmmmm...... well, after capturing Carthage, the Vandals did utilize the large Roman fleet that had been left there against the Romans, so perhaps under certain conditions the Lugii will be able to keep the existing military infrastructure of a province and recruit some units they normally would not be able to recruit?

Or maybe culture refers to govermental and social structures, so they could keep and utilize the government building (although I don't fully remember how government works in EB2) or cultural buidlings they normally would not be able to use.

If I follow correctly, I think they will be using the Apache script? For those who don't know about MIITW Kingdoms, the Apache tribes were able to take over enemy technology after defeating them, thus, creating Apachean musketeers, Apachean Cavalry and eventually Apachean musket cavalry!

This might be modified to make the Lugiones adapt to several foes, in the forms of better quality armour or weapons.

Or I am completely wrong here, anyway, this preview contains an ENORMOUS amount of information, I might read up with more time but I just have to tell you that I am amazed on how much you can bring together about a people on that region at that time.

Best wishes everybody.

~Fluvius

[cmacq]

Right,

much of the information is in what might be called Grey Literature. Its just pulling it all together, being able to read the different languages, and understanding what it all means technically. It's not so much that the general public doesn't have access to this information, rather they don't know what to look for, or if they do, where to find it. There is also a literal ton of disinformation that is of course, very easy to get ahold of. I would like everyone to know that most of the 100 references I've posted for the Lugiones Preview are avaible online.

[Brennus]

Well personally I eat my hat for having said such things in the past as "There won't be a Baltic faction". *cough* Belgae *cough*, excuse me.

Lovely work!

[cmacq]

A good overview of the 'Marcomannic Wars' can be found below.

Grane, T.
The Roman Empire and Southern Scandinavia: a Northern Connection. Ph.D.-dissertation at the SAXO-Institute, University of Copenhagen, 2007.