wow I got it to work. Thx man, sorry to everyone if I was short, supremely frustrated. Vue has always been my outlet, there is soooo much that needs expressing and when Vue stopped working and not being proficient in Maya I felt lost. Still lost tho there is a light ahead. Soon will have workflow going to model, texture in substance painter and render back in maya, organics modelled in zbrush, then spend the rest of whatever time I have improving my skills and hoping this country doesnt fall into a civil war sigh
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