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    European Parliament ends visa-free travel for Americans

    The European Parliament has voted to end visa-free travel for Americans within the EU.

    It comes after the US failed to agree visa-free travel for citizens of five EU countries—Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Poland and Romania—as part of a reciprocity agreement. US citizens can normally travel to all countries in the bloc without a visa.

    The vote by the parliament's civil liberties committee means Americans will have to apply for extra documents for the next 12 months.

    The European Commission discovered three years ago that the US was not meeting its obligations under the reciprocity agreement but has not yet taken any legal action.

    Australia, Brunei, Japan and Canada were also failing in their obligations, but all four have lifted, or are soon to lift, any visa restrictions on travel for EU citizens.

    Following the committee's vote the Commission must act to suspend the visa waiver for Americans, but the European Parliament or the Council of Europe may object.
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    So obama was putting travel restrictions on poland romania cyprus and bulgaria? Why?
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    That's a good question, especially since Poland is the biggest fan of the US.


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    Probably out of concern that citizens of those countries might actually stay and live in US illegally.

    Anyway, kudos to EU for sticking up for its less influental members.

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    Maybe that's why? Maybe it looked like a lot of the Poles would immigrate to the US? Contrary to what Trump tried to portray, the Obama administration was quite stingy on immigration. It's just that Trump's policy is more extreme in comparison. I don't agree with the policy towards those countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    That's a good question, especially since Poland is the biggest fan of the US.
    Being in the USA I heard a lot of jokes about "stupid Poles". Perhaps it was one of the reasons? No one would like throngs of stupid people roaming the neighborhoods at will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    Being in the USA I heard a lot of jokes about "stupid Poles". Perhaps it was one of the reasons? No one would like throngs of stupid people roaming the neighborhoods at will.
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    Welcome back Kukri.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    He has been popping in to make these sorts of posts every few months. Looking at his post history, his last substantive post was in 2010:
    Following a gap of nearly two years, he returned with the following:
    His profile puts his age in the 60s.
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    The EU is acting more and more like a country.

    Given the vast difference between countries such as Germany, and the rampantly corrupt Romania, I'm not surprised that there are different standards for entry.

    Let's all watch how glacially slowly the EU moves on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    The EU is acting more and more like a country.
    That would be great if it were true.

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Given the vast difference between countries such as Germany, and the rampantly corrupt Romania, I'm not surprised that there are different standards for entry.
    Indeed, Germany doesn't meet certain anti-corruption standards, something the EU complained about a while ago.

    https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/si...chapter_en.pdf
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    and the absence of a ‘revolving door’ policy, especially in the public sector.
    Further steps could be taken to promote integrity and raise awareness of foreign bribery
    among small and medium-sized enterprises.
    Remember when Gerhard Schröder greenlit a pipeline from Gazprom, then lost the election and began working for Gazprom almost immediately afterwards?
    At least in Romania the citizens hold their government accountable as we saw recently.

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Let's all watch how glacially slowly the EU moves on this one.
    What exactly are you referring to? The OP says "The vote by the parliament's civil liberties committee means Americans will have to apply for extra documents for the next 12 months.", so it would seem the EU has already moved. I can only assume you are referring to how fast glaciers fall apart due to global warming.


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    To equate one official jumping to a private sector job hardly compares to the corruption Romania has - and the EU has commented on - for years. That it is bad enough for a revolt hardly is a good thing. Except if all states are Bad and we should all run to wards the Enlightenment that is the EU.

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    What exactly are you referring to? The OP says "The vote by the parliament's civil liberties committee means Americans will have to apply for extra documents for the next 12 months.", so it would seem the EU has already moved. I can only assume you are referring to how fast glaciers fall apart due to global warming.
    Yes it does state that - and I am sure that is what you want to hear and so don't bother to look elsewhere. But sadly that is not the whole truth. Link The EU has known for, oh 3 years or so and has done nothing. This vote means that it can go back to the parliament to have a vote else the MEPs can go to the Courts of Justice... It could happen in 12 months - let's see if it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    Yes it does state that - and I am sure that is what you want to hear and so don't bother to look elsewhere. But sadly that is not the whole truth. Link The EU has known for, oh 3 years or so and has done nothing. This vote means that it can go back to the parliament to have a vote else the MEPs can go to the Courts of Justice... It could happen in 12 months - let's see if it does.
    Eh, that is also in the OP:

    The European Commission discovered three years ago that the US was not meeting its obligations under the reciprocity agreement but has not yet taken any legal action.

    Australia, Brunei, Japan and Canada were also failing in their obligations, but all four have lifted, or are soon to lift, any visa restrictions on travel for EU citizens.
    The second paragraph makes it sound like the EU notified the offending countries and gave them some time to come around. It further indicates that some of them want to come around but are not there yet because they move like glaciers themselves. My interpretation is that they now think that the lack of action on the part of the US warrants this action on the part of the EU, that they basically waited three years on purpose, not that they were unable to do this faster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    So obama was putting travel restrictions on poland romania cyprus and bulgaria? Why?
    Was the visa-free travel from those countries never there in the first place or removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Remember when Gerhard Schröder greenlit a pipeline from Gazprom, then lost the election and began working for Gazprom almost immediately afterwards?
    Is that news? All politicians do something like that (except those that decide they want to retire and pick a committee of their choosing, doing little to no work for a huge salary). It wouldn't even be news if it wasn't Gazprom in question. If he went on to sit on the board of, let's say, Siemens, no one would care.

    It's still incomparable to the level of corruption in Romania and its neighbourhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    Was the visa-free travel from those countries never there in the first place or removed?
    Those countries used to be under the visa waiver program. This was dropped because too many of the visitors were interpreting '<90 days stay for tourism' as 'move in, get a job, count on the amnesty later.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Is that news? All politicians do something like that (except those that decide they want to retire and pick a committee of their choosing, doing little to no work for a huge salary). It wouldn't even be news if it wasn't Gazprom in question. If he went on to sit on the board of, let's say, Siemens, no one would care.

    It's still incomparable to the level of corruption in Romania and its neighbourhood.
    Of course it is not news, I asked whether people remember it.
    Why did the US agree to the reciprocity agreement in the first place then? Did they not know anything about these countries when they signed it and only found out how terrible they are later and hoped noone would notice if they excluded them?
    Of course one could ask why they're in the EU in the first place if they're that terrible. We should have built a wall instead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Of course it is not news, I asked whether people remember it.
    Why did the US agree to the reciprocity agreement in the first place then? Did they not know anything about these countries when they signed it and only found out how terrible they are later and hoped noone would notice if they excluded them?
    Of course one could ask why they're in the EU in the first place if they're that terrible. We should have built a wall instead.
    I'm not attacking EU decision. In fact, I applaud it. Sure, from the US point of view, the current system probably makes sense, but if EU is supposed to work, it must protect its member states, regardless of size or influence. It's now up to US to determine if this worth the higher cost they would have if they allowed all EU members visa free access.

    On the whole, though, it's not like US citizens are that much inconvenienced, so this is mostly symbolic. Still a step in the right direction.

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    In a similar case, the EU warned the UK repeatedly because the UK didn't do anything to stop illegal immigration of Chinese goods. Now that nothing has been done by UK authorities, the EU's anti fraud office suggests to fine them. As I said above, it seems to be the normal MO to warn countries repeatedly and give them time to fix things before punishments are dished out.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/bu...-35512630.html

    Clothes and shoes were imported through the UK at fictitiously low values for years to avoid duties, the European Anti-Fraud Office (Olaf) found.

    Investigators warned HM Revenue and Customs a number of times but they failed to take tough action to curb the problem, it said.

    The fraud has cost the EU nearly two billion euro in lost duties between 2013-16 and Olaf has called on the European Commission to reap back the cash from the UK.


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    Romania repeatedly asked for visa-free US travel for it's citizens, but we never got that. At least we got Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edyzmedieval View Post
    Romania repeatedly asked for visa-free US travel for it's citizens, but we never got that. At least we got Canada.
    Again, probably not a negative comment about Romanians so much as concern that they would stay past the "implied" visa times.
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    There's nothing worth seeing east of Vienna. Now that I think about it, Croatia might be west of Vienna. The best part about Croatia was drazen petrovic. Man what I wouldn't give to see a united Yugoslavia at the 92 Olympics. The dream team may have actually had to show up the second half.
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    I still cry myself to sleep the times I think what the football and basketball team could have achieved.

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    I still cry myself to sleep the times I think what the football and basketball team could have achieved.
    Yet Croatia as a football team achieved much in 1998. Never could Yugoslavia boast of similar.

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    Only a few of the players who achieved that would be able to find a spot in Yugoslavian team. 92-98 would have been their years to shine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Only a few of the players who achieved that would be able to find a spot in Yugoslavian team.
    How do you know the united Yugoslavia would have done better or at least shown the same results? The latter is brought about not by the simple sum of great players. There have been examples in football history (and I'm sure not only in football) when the conceit of a gang of great stars brought their team to no success (like the debacle of France after their winnning the world cup). Otherwise Barcelona would be a constant Champions league winner and Brazil - the world cup holder. Should I dwell on the significance of coaching, the team spirit and simple luck the combination of which may lift the team up to the top?

    Very often I hear similar comments from Russia on how great the current USSR football/basketball/biathlon team might have been, had the USSR survived. They add the number of medals won at the Olympics by the former USSR states and make far-fetched conclusions. In sports (like in many other fields) simple addition of the best ingredients doesn't guarantee the first class dish. But what you (and many Russians) feel I consider phantom limb pains caused by the nostalgia for the lost empire.

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    Relax, he's from Texas. They barely tolerate the rest of the states in the USA, much less anything 'furrin.'
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    And, let's face it, he probably didn't even see Vienna. Being a Texan, he's probably expecting Vienna to come to him.

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